Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Proof

@eladar said

God also harden' s some people's heart and created some people to be evil.

Yes, the biblical God does do that.

@eladar said
If you saw an adult, then how long would you assume he had been alive?

At least 16 years?

Is there a punchline to this?

What, pray, are you driving at?

@kellyjay said
And I told you how.

What you haven't told us yet is your explanation for gaps in the fossil record. You use this to try to deny evolution, so let's have your thoughts on it.

@indonesia-phil said
What you haven't told us yet is your explanation for gaps in the fossil record. You use this to try to deny evolution, so let's have your thoughts on it.

You are in a different conversation now. Please follow along to know what and why things were said.

@kellyjay said
I believe God wants us all saved, but it is who-so-ever will can come to the Lord. He will by no means throw any of us out that do come to Him. This also means that those that don't want it, will keep themselves out, not because the way isn't open to them, but they don't want it and God gives us that choice. The hardening of the heart is the more God shows us what we need to ...[text shortened]... e extraordinary proof God can show you, if you want to reject God the harder your heart will become.

Love me or I will torture you forever is the mantra of your god.
Can't you just feel the love dripping from this character.

@indonesia-phil said
What you haven't told us yet is your explanation for gaps in the fossil record. You use this to try to deny evolution, so let's have your thoughts on it.

I don’t believe that there are gaps in the fossil record because I reject the notion of a common ancestor. Therefore we don’t see what never was there, and since the process is not on going, we don’t see all the not quite the same life here today, which we should if true.

@kellyjay said
I don’t believe that there are gaps in the fossil record because I reject the notion of a common ancestor. Therefore we don’t see what never was there, and since the process is not on going, we don’t see all the not quite the same life here today, which we should if true.

Then you are deliberately ignorant.

@indonesia-phil said
Is there a punchline to this?

What, pray, are you driving at?

The Universe and this earth has not died,if created it would be the perceived age of its creation plus the time since.

@caissad4 said
Then you are deliberately ignorant.

I disagree, and it isn't something I have not looked at, also when those here give me links I look at to prove a point I look at them. It doesn't mean I will accept what is said. Unlike you when I presented a link to you that challenges your preconceived idea that you declared as truth, you put your fingers in your ears and refused to have your truth challenged. Now you may look at what I gave you and poke holes in it in disagreement, instead you left me thinking you don't trust your truth to stand up to disagreement.

@kellyjay said
I disagree, and it isn't something I have not looked at, also when those here give me links I look at to prove a point I look at them. It doesn't mean I will accept what is said. Unlike you when I presented a link to you that challenges your preconceived idea that you declared as truth, you put your fingers in your ears and refused to have your truth challenged. Now you may ...[text shortened]... n disagreement, instead you left me thinking you don't trust your truth to stand up to disagreement.

Of course you are deliberately ignorant. Just spend 10 minutes of searching this topic on the web and you will find many, many sites showing you are mistaken. I would not waste my time giving you links, you would just say that you do not believe them. You have done this many times before.
You are deliberately ignorant.

@caissad4 said
Love me or I will torture you forever is the mantra of your god.
Can't you just feel the love dripping from this character.

Taking a totally sinful race and justifying them so they could be forgiven and enter into an eternal Kingdom does seem like a God dripping with love in His character. Looking at those that love their sins and want to remain in them they will. Looking at those that don't want to enter into God's Kingdom but refuse the One who died for their forgiveness, they will not enter into it. Everyone gets what they want, God wants His children to come to Him with the attitude His will be done, and those that refuse God, God gives them their will be done.

@kellyjay said
Taking a totally sinful race and justifying them so they could be forgiven and enter into an eternal Kingdom does seem like a God dripping with love in His character. Looking at those that love their sins and want to remain in them they will. Looking at those that don't want to enter into God's Kingdom but refuse the One who died for their forgiveness, they will not enter in ...[text shortened]... im with the attitude His will be done, and those that refuse God, God gives them their will be done.

Right. Love me or I will torture you forever.
Heck, Satan got a better deal after making war against your god.

@caissad4 said
Of course you are deliberately ignorant. Just spend 10 minutes of searching this topic on the web and you will find many, many sites showing you are mistaken. I would not waste my time giving you links, you would just say that you do not believe them. You have done this many times before.
You are deliberately ignorant.

Again, simply telling what you believe is not proof and as soon as I hear it I must change my mind. You can show me several sites that pronounce truth as they believe it to be, that doesn't mean what they say is true. I can show you sites that stress some other point of view, just because you see it on the web does that mean you have to change your mind? Get serious please think things through, have an independent thought without falling in line because people tell you too.

If you cannot stand to have your point of view challenged stop saying your a truth seeker, you really a please show me I'm right seeker. Your ears itch and you need them scratched, truth isn't always what we want to see, and it isn't always what we think it is. If you cannot stand being challenged why challenge others?

@caissad4 said
Right. Love me or I will torture you forever.
Heck, Satan got a better deal after making war against your god.

Hell was designed for Satan not us, but since we sided with him, those that did will share his fate.

@kellyjay said
Again, simply telling what you believe is not proof and as soon as I hear it I must change my mind. You can show me several sites that pronounce truth as they believe it to be, that doesn't mean what they say is true. I can show you sites that stress some other point of view, just because you see it on the web does that mean you have to change your mind? Get serious please t ...[text shortened]... and it isn't always what we think it is. If you cannot stand being challenged why challenge others?

You are deliberately ignorant. What else can I say ?
Bible literalists are either deliberately ignorant or deluded fools.
That is fact, not opinion or belief.