Originally posted by PalynkaSorry, I don't understand the word 'cop-out'.
That's quite a cop-out, especially since you were talking about truth. That religion needs axioms doesn't mean it is necessarily logically inconsistent.
The very essence of God is that he is not comprehensible. He is not logic because he has the power to stand outside any logic.
Religion does not have logic because faith is stronger.
A medieval priest (?) named Averoës actually invented the view of ‘double truth’, something that can be true in the everyday life but in religion could even the opposite to be equally true even if its totally contradicts the first one.
So the laws of logic doesn’t apply in religion.
Originally posted by David CA person (in the classical metaphysical sense) is generally a being that has an intellect and a will. A being is an individual thing; it has an essence and a distinct existence.
Are you saying Krishna and Vishnu are an historical person(s)? Flesh and blood? Please expound on the difference between a person and a being.
With the Trinity, the three Persons have the same essence and existence (therefore the same Being), but have distinct intellects and wills (although harmonised) -- hence One Being, Three Persons.
Originally posted by FabianFnasThe very essence of God is that he is not comprehensible. He is not logic because he has the power to stand outside any logic.
Sorry, I don't understand the word 'cop-out'.
The very essence of God is that he is not comprehensible. He is not logic because he has the power to stand outside any logic.
Religion does not have logic because faith is stronger.
A medieval priest (?) named Averoës actually invented the view of ‘double truth’, something that can be true in the eve ...[text shortened]... if its totally contradicts the first one.
So the laws of logic doesn’t apply in religion.
I call your bluff. Why is that the very essence of God? And how does he have the power to stand outside logic?
Religion does not have logic because faith is stronger.
This is meaningless. What is 'stronger' in this context? I agree that faith is needed for the assumptions, but what follows cannot be logically contradictory. And do you think all assumptions are logically contradictory?
A medieval priest (?) named Averoës actually invented the view of ‘double truth’, something that can be true in the everyday life but in religion could even the opposite to be equally true even if its totally contradicts the first one.
And why should I simply take his word for it? And should I assume he speaks for ALL religions?
Originally posted by Bosse de NageNeither -- it behaves as a wave under certain conditions and a particle under certain others.
I'm trying to remember some of my high school physics, maybe you can help me. Is light a wave or a particle?
However 'particle' is NOT the same as '~wave' and vice-versa; to assume that would be an excluded middle fallacy.
Originally posted by FabianFnasAverroes was an Islamic philosopher.
A medieval priest (?) named Averoës actually invented the view of ‘double truth’, something that can be true in the everyday life but in religion could even the opposite to be equally true even if its totally contradicts the first one.
Originally posted by PalynkaAverroism was condemned by the RCC (with Aquinas, in particular, it's strongest opponent).
[b]The very essence of God is that he is not comprehensible. He is not logic because he has the power to stand outside any logic.
I call your bluff. Why is that the very essence of God? And how does he have the power to stand outside logic?
Religion does not have logic because faith is stronger.
This is meaningless. What is 'stronger' in th ...[text shortened]... And why should I simply take his word for it? And should I assume he speaks for ALL religions?[/b]
Originally posted by Bosse de NageBut he is, isn't he?
Argh, you're asking for trouble now. Brace yourself, Sheila...
Them all, Allah, Jehova, Jahve, emanates from the times of Abraham, could I be so wrong about this?
Even Muslims thinks high of Jesus as a prophet, even more than the Jews
Originally posted by FabianFnasFirst of all, even assuming that Allah and the Christian God are the same God, how does it not matter? Islam and Christianity are clearly distinct religions, so views expressed by a person in one tradition are not readily applicable to the other.
Thank you for the correction.
But this doesn't matter because Allah and God is the same god.
He has Christians as proselytes too.
Second, Islam and Christianity have extremely basic differences in their conception of God.
Third, Averroes's position isn't widely accepted even within the Islamic world, let alone the Christian world. His position has been consistently rejected by the RCC since the 13th century (particularly due to the efforts of St. Thomas Aquinas) or so; most modern Protestant philosophers would also agree.