Fake Christian.

Originally posted by lemon lime
One time I asked why no atheists were attacking the 'Christian' divegeester and Wolfgang told me it's because dives theism is reasonable. So at least one atheist here has said it's reasonable. And I don't know if the person who said Dive is "plausible" is an atheist or not... but if I had to guess I would say 'is'.

Attacking!!!! Got love the hyperbole.

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
I love everyone and am carrying out Gods will. (Indirectly and unknowingly via my conscience; aka Gods inner voice). Am i a true Christian?

really? you love, what is the nature of this love that display to everybody? as for Gods will it refers to an action, it cannot therefore simply be an inner state, can it.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
really? you love, what is the nature of this love that display to everybody? as for Gods will it refers to an action, it cannot therefore simply be an inner state, can it.

I 'chose' to work in a 'caring' profession, because i care about people. My inner state dictates my external actions.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Attacking!!!! Got love the hyperbole.

Get real. Why would any atheist say a Christians 'theism' is reasonable (or plausible) unless it posed no threat to atheism?

The reason I remember Wolfgangs answer is because he said Dives 'theism' is reasonable. He didn't say his 'Christian' doctrine is reasonable, he said "theism". You were there when I asked why atheists were not attacking divegeester but were attacking other Christians, and Wolfgang was the only one who answered my question.

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
I 'chose' to work in a 'caring' profession, because i care about people. My inner state dictates my external actions.

Yes but so do many others. It does not make them true Christians. It makes them kind and compassionate people, but not necessarily true Christians.

Originally posted by lemon lime
Get real. Why would any atheist say a Christians 'theism' is reasonable (or plausible) [b]unless it posed no threat to atheism?

The reason I remember Wolfgangs answer is because he said Dives 'theism' is reasonable. He didn't say his 'Christian' doctrine is reasonable, he said "theism". You were there when I asked why atheists were not attac ...[text shortened]... e[/b] attacking other Christians, and Wolfgang was the only one who answered my question.[/b]

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yes in the same way that time travel is possible.

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
But you said RBHILL's posts were 'Not incoherent to anyone who is sober.' - which I agreed with, and still do. I do not think we disagree on what RBHILL meant to say, either.

Where (I think) we differ is on the correctness of RBHILL's claim that Dive is the one who needs to provide substantiation. You think RB is correct (right?); I think he's not ...[text shortened]... ovide some reasons why you think the No-side should be the one to provide justification. Thanks.

Does the Bible really mention eternal punishment?

YouTube

"These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."

(Matthew 25:46 NASB)

Originally posted by lemon lime
Get real. Why would any atheist say a Christians 'theism' is reasonable (or plausible) [b]unless it posed no threat to atheism?

The reason I remember Wolfgangs answer is because he said Dives 'theism' is reasonable. He didn't say his 'Christian' doctrine is reasonable, he said "theism". You were there when I asked why atheists were not attac ...[text shortened]... e[/b] attacking other Christians, and Wolfgang was the only one who answered my question.[/b]

Of course that might be because he was the only one who read the question...

Or many other possible reasons.

Also, given that atheists need have nothing in common other than a lack of belief in gods,
the fact that one atheist might think something says very little about what other atheists
might think on the subject.

Dive' often makes reasonable points that I agree with [and others that I don't] and thus I
don't 'attack' his arguments because they are reasonable arguments to make.

This doesn't mean that I think his 'theism' is reasonable, any more than I think anyone's
'theism' is reasonable.

Belief in god/s [or anything else] without evidence is universally wrong and unjustifiable.

However, the beliefs he has hung around his belief in god, and his sense of morality seem
to be rather more acceptable and 'reasonable' than many others here.
He also doesn't [I don't believe] believe in YEC or many of the other crazy beliefs proposed around
here. In fact he comes across as being what I would describe as a normal mainstream CofE
Christian [I have no idea precisely what denomination if any he ascribes to] who is lacking in
many of the insane beliefs that, prior to originally joining this site, I didn't used to believe anyone
still believed outside a tiny minority of total loonies. Imagine my shock to discover how many
crazy religious people their actually were.

This tends to mean that on the list of people espousing ideas that gather attention and push back,
dive' is pretty low on the list.


Still doesn't make his belief in god/s reasonable or rational however.

Originally posted by RJHinds
[b]Does the Bible really mention eternal punishment?

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"These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."

(Matthew 25:46 NASB)[/b]

They fail to understand that man is born body and soul or soul life. The only spirit man has is what he receives at the new birth.

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Why are you dishonestly trying to distort what I have said. I have stated what the principles are. I have stated that if anyone adheres to them they are a true christian. If Jehovahs witnesses or anyone else adheres to these BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES that I CLEARLY outlined then they are a true Christian. I have not mentioned Jehovah's Witnesses, nor their doctrines and only you and your atheist friend seemed compelled to bring it up. Perhaps its a weakness in your stance that you cannot negate the principles themselves nor the logic and feel compelled to dishonestly distort what other people have written as you are doing here by attempting to create a distorted portrayal.

It seems that being devoid of anything else you are left wit the only real option open to you, attempting to distort anothers stance so as to attack them as I and some others have noticed.

Originally posted by googlefudge
Of course that might be because he was the only one who read the question...

Or many other possible reasons.

Also, given that atheists need have nothing in common other than a lack of belief in gods,
the fact that one atheist might think something says very little about what other atheists
might think on the subject.

Dive' often makes reason ...[text shortened]... tty low on the list.


Still doesn't make his belief in god/s reasonable or rational however.

It is not reasonable or rational to not believe the Holy Bible God or not to believe in Christ Jesus.

The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God."

(Psalm 14:1 NASB)