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    31 Oct '18 23:21
    @karoly-aczel said
    Absolutely!! But I dont fear it in anyway.
    The people who love you ~ you don't love them back?
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    31 Oct '18 23:23
    @karoly-aczel said
    This is not speculation.
    Of course it's speculation. Don't be silly.
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    31 Oct '18 23:25
    @karoly-aczel said
    Do you believe it is possible to know 100% that my contention is true?
    I believe it is 100% possible to tell you to put this rhetorical gimmick in your pipe and smoke it.
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    01 Nov '18 00:29
    @fmf said
    The people who love you ~ you don't love them back?
    of course I love them, those close ones I can count on one hand- I would lay down my life for them ...

    Just because I am unattached doesn't mean I dont love
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    @karoly-aczel said
    of course I love them, those close ones I can count on one hand- I would lay down my life for them ...

    Just because I am unattached doesn't mean I dont love
    If your fear of death - and also you perceived meaning of life - is unconnected to the people around you, especially those you love and who love you, just explain it clearly so that other people here might want to talk to you about it.
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    01 Nov '18 02:07
    @fmf said
    Of course it's speculation. Don't be silly.
    Once again, I know this because I have worked it out for myself.

    It's not speculation, theory, intuition or any other relative concept FOR ME, It's a brute fact
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    @fmf said
    If your fear of death - and also you perceived meaning of life - is unconnected to the people around you, especially those you love and who love you, just explain it clearly so that other people here might want to talk to you about it.
    Well for example I love my son.

    But also I accept that nothing is entirely safe and nothing is permanent. I had to let go of the attachment to him to go beyond relative understanding...
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    @karoly-aczel said
    Well for example I love my son.

    But also I accept that nothing is entirely safe and nothing is permanent. I had to let go of the attachment to him to go beyond relative understanding...
    The thread topic is 'fear of death'.
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    @karoly-aczel said
    Once again, I know this because I have worked it out for myself.

    It's not speculation, theory, intuition or any other relative concept FOR ME, It's a brute fact
    Good. Consider painting it onto a sandwich board and walking up and down Regent's Street. Maybe paint "brute fact" in bold capitals.
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    @fmf said
    The thread topic is 'fear of death'.
    death of?
    Please specify
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    @fmf said
    Good. Consider painting it onto a sandwich board and walking up and down Regent's Street. Maybe paint "brute fact" in bold capitals.
    Well I'm not going to walk up and down any street, I was just responding to the issues raised in this thread, however I would consider painting it on some board somewhere
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    @karoly-aczel said
    death of?
    Please specify
    No. Drivel on in whatever way you choose. Don't wait for prompts from me.
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    @karoly-aczel said
    Well I'm not going to walk up and down any street, I was just responding to the issues raised in this thread, however I would consider painting it on some board somewhere
    You mean what you said about something being a "brute fact"?
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    @karoly-aczel said
    pssst Consciousness has no end 😉
    Ok. Thanks for this. I've been impolite. Thanks very much for this. Consciousness has no end. Brute fact etc. No fear of death. Got it. Thanks.
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    One question I have about the Fear of Death thread.

    No one here has experienced physical death yet.
    All we can say is completely out of our personal experience.

    If someone were to claim to know about this unknown realm by experience, what moral characteristics of such a person would you want to see in them?

    Ie. "If someone were to claim to know by experience what will occur upon my death, I would want these personal moral character traits to be strong in that person
    ___________,
    ___________,
    ___________,

    etc. "
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