@karoly-aczel saidYour assertion is oblivious. divegeester's answer was interesting. I didn't dismiss it. Ghost of a Duke offered a thoughtful answer. I haven't dismissed it. Chalen (whoever he really is) chipped in. He was not dismissed. badradger offered an interesting bit of personal testimony and an answer which I have not dismissed. sonship, of course, not being one for normal 'talking to people' in a genuine way, turned on his deliberately-not-engaging hairdryer and so has marginalised himself, thus far, at least. So that just leaves you who feels dismissed. Have I hurt your feelings, is that it?
It amazes me that FMF starts a thread about a topic, he gets some answers and then dismisses them.
@FMF
2013 I had pneumonia didn't realize it at the time until I also caught pleurisy that
caught my attention since every time I coughed or laughed it felt like I was being
stabbed with a knife. Went early to get the pleurisy looked at, they took Xrays a
couple days back to back and saw my right lung filling up. They admitted me and
one doctor wanted to send me home which might have killed me, a surgeon came
through and noticed how fast my lung was filling by checking the Xrays they took.
So I was scheduled for a thoracotomy (nasty scar on my back), I was told this was
serious, but I have to tell you I was at peace. When my wife and were talking I
knew if I passed I was going to be with the Lord, if I stayed I was with her. It was
win, win for me. They took a liter and half of fluid out of my right lung some they
had to peal out because it had solidified which screwed up all the shallow nerves
on my right side. You can punch me there no big deal, but a gentle stroke like
from a child that is being affectionate painful. We had another kid after that too,
but bottom line, death no fear, pain and suffering, yea would like to avoid that. 🙂
@kellyjay saidThat should have read 2003, sheesh...
@FMF
2013 I had pneumonia didn't realize it at the time until I also caught pleurisy that
caught my attention since every time I coughed or laughed it felt like I was being
stabbed with a knife. Went early to get the pleurisy looked at, they took Xrays a
couple days back to back and saw my right lung filling up. They admitted me and
one doctor wanted to send me home w ...[text shortened]... fter that too,
but bottom line, death no fear, pain and suffering, yea would like to avoid that. 🙂
@kellyjay saidThe story answers the OP question regardless of how long ago it happened to you. Your lack of fear of death [if I am right it in summarizing this way] stems from you having no fear of having to stand before your God to be judged ~ as all non-believers will ~ for what you have often described as your "evil and wickedness" because you already "know" that you are "forgiven" and you already know you will be going to "Heaven" ["going to be with the Lord"] having secured this posthumous destiny for yourself by simply believing it to be true for over 30 years. Right?
That should have read 2003, sheesh...
@fmf saidFaith, in a savior's forgiveness. It’s more than just believing something, having
The story answers the OP question regardless of how long ago it happened to you. Your lack of fear of death [if I am right it in summarizing this way] stems from you having no fear of having to stand before your God to be judged ~ as all non-believers will ~ for what you have often described as your "evil and wickedness" because you already "know" that you are "forgiven" and you ...[text shortened]... red this posthumous destiny for yourself by simply believing it to be true for over 30 years. Right?
God in one's life alters this place. There is more to this life than living and dying, we
all have done evil and wickedness and our hearts are prone to it. Which is why we
must be born again. This isn't something we can do on our own, it requires God
without which all you have is one more earthy philosophy of how to live a good
life which are a dime a dozen.
@kellyjay saidWas my reiteration of what you said correct?
Faith, in a savior's forgiveness. It’s more than just believing something, having
God in one's life alters this place. There is more to this life than living and dying, we
all have done evil and wickedness and our hearts are prone to it. Which is why we
must be born again. This isn't something we can do on our own, it requires God
without which all you have is one more earthy philosophy of how to live a good
life which are a dime a dozen.
@kellyjay saidFaith in "forgiveness" and belief that one will be "forgiven" mean the same thing. The belief that one has "God in one's life" and that it "alters" you or "this place" [the world in which you live?] is a psychological effect of being religious.
Faith, in a savior's forgiveness. It’s more than just believing something, having
God in one's life alters this place.
@fmf saidNo, if you are implying me earning it in any fashion.
Was my reiteration of what you said correct?
"... secured this posthumous destiny for yourself by simply believing it to be true for over 30 years. Right?"
I accepted what is freely offered to all, I did not secure this for myself. I cannot
make God do anything, He is God I am not, only due to His long suffering and
kindness, and love for us was it offered to us. We cannot earn it, its a gift we accept it or not.
@kellyjay saidA "dime a dozen"? I think that Christians telling themselves they will have everlasting life are "a dime a dozen", surely, and there are plenty of other religions that talk about it too. With the religious doctrines that you propagate "all you have is one more earthy philosophy of how to live a good life" ~ to quote your attempt to be dismissive of all philosophies apart from your own ~ at least to my way of thinking.
There is more to this life than living and dying, we
all have done evil and wickedness and our hearts are prone to it. Which is why we
must be born again. This isn't something we can do on our own, it requires God
without which all you have is one more earthy philosophy of how to live a good
life which are a dime a dozen.
@fmf saidIts a different perspective and it isn't some strange thing, when people who are
Faith in "forgiveness" and belief that one will be "forgiven" mean the same thing. The belief that one has "God in one's life" and that it "alters" you or "this place" [the world in which you live?] is a psychological effect of being religious.
left leaning look at some events they see things one way, while people who are
right leaning can look at the same event and they see things another way. God
gives you His Spirit it changes your perspective, and the Kingdom of God alters
all things putting everything in life in a different mindset completely. You realize
that you can gain the whole world and lose your soul, that those that did you
harm should be forgiven over revenge because you were forgiven.
@fmf saidIf all they have is a godless life Christianity then they are no different than someone
A "dime a dozen"? I think that Christians telling themselves they will have everlasting life are "a dime a dozen", surely, and there are plenty of other religions that talk about it too. With the religious doctrines that you propagate "all you have is one more earthy philosophy of how to live a good life" ~ to quote your attempt to be dismissive of all philosophies apart from your own ~ at least to my way of thinking.
else who believes in either a different god, or none at all. Believing in something that
you have no contact with doesn't alter one's heart, it doesn't make you different than
you were before you started this belief system. Its only different if God is in it, or
its just more of the same.