Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeNot if you know and understand the Bible.
The two are simply incompatible.
Originally posted by @secondsonIt is your prerogative that you tell yourself what you want about what's going to happen to you after you die. But, of course, you doing so does not "reconcile" anything with regard to what I said.
It's just one of those conundrums that will be resolved in the afterlife, except by those who know now.
Originally posted by @secondsonIs that where the "supernatural furnace for having had the wrong religion" is located? In the "outer darkness"?
Some, it seems, are unable to reconcile the idea of a loving God with the idea that the same God will cast billions into outer darkness for all eternity.
Originally posted by @secondsonIt seems as if that's for me to know, and for you to find out.
What "supernatural furnace"?
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeIncompatible to sinful people with a finite mind and limited understanding and perspective.
It is not a conundrum. The two are simply incompatible.
I would rather trust a completely holy and omniscient God with perfect understanding and an eternal perspective.
If a park ranger tries to free the paw of a bear from a steel trap, the bear will view the act as awful due to the ensuing pain and torment.
But the park ranger who, compared to the bear, has greater understanding and a longer perspective knows that for the paw and bear to be healed, the bear must undergo some pain.
Originally posted by @romans1009Perhaps what you would just so happen "rather" do, whoever you are, is a result of your "finite mind and limited understanding and perspective".
Incompatible to sinful people with a finite mind and limited understanding and perspective.
I would rather trust a completely holy and omniscient God with perfect understanding and an eternal perspective.
Perhaps Ghost of a Duke, with his "finite mind and limited understanding and perspective" feels he has no reason to "trust" what you say is a completely holy and omniscient God with perfect understanding and an eternal perspective.
In other words, your "finite mind and limited understanding and perspective" thing is a weak debating point when talking to people who may well be considerably smarter and more open-minded than you. I'm surprised you are persisting with it.
Originally posted by @secondsonJesus and his sons are resolving this right now in this life/
I know what you were trying to say though.
Some, it seems, are unable to reconcile the idea of a loving God with the idea that the same God will cast billions into outer darkness for all eternity.
It's just one of those conundrums that will be resolved in the afterlife, except by those who know now.
Originally posted by @fmfWhat I posted presupposes that God exists and that He is as represented in the Bible, specifically the New Testament, which is a representation of His new covenant with mankind.
Perhaps what you would just so happen "rather" do, whoever you are, is a result of your "finite mind and limited understanding and perspective".
Perhaps Ghost of a Duke, with his "finite mind and limited understanding and perspective" feels he has no reason to "trust" what you say is a completely holy and omniscient God with perfect understanding and an et ...[text shortened]... be considerably smarter and more open-minded than you. I'm surprised you are persisting with it.
I thought we were all discussing and debating the Christian God (i.e. the only living and true God.)
Originally posted by @romans1009My point is, this "finite mind and limited understanding and perspective" thing you have bandied about with more than one poster you disagree with - and on more than one thread - is a weak, weak 'debating point'.
What I posted presupposes that God exists and that He is as represented in the Bible, specifically the New Testament, which is a representation of His new covenant with mankind.
I thought we were all discussing and debating the Christian God (i.e. the only living and true God.)
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelThe god you don't believe in?
Are you telling me to get serious? Serious?? Pipe your crap down luvvy. Serious/ dont judge me. Only god judges me.