Finding the crime

Originally posted by @fmf
Just go with the FMF-is-a-lying thing. I am OK with it. I am not interested in trying to prove to you that I am not a liar.

You said, "Talk to me as an atheist…" so I did, now I can explain the gospel, other
Christians can too, not me or any of them can tell me what *YOU* thought about what
the gospel was, back when you believed in it. Only you, not you the Atheist, just you
without all the titles you apply to yourself and others. You were the only one who lived
your life no one else, you were the only one that has your understanding. I'm just asking
for what you believed, back in the time for 30 years that you believed it.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
You said, "Talk to me as an atheist…" so I did, now I can explain the gospel, other
Christians can too, not me or any of them can tell me what *YOU* thought about what
the gospel was, back when you believed in it. Only you, not you the Atheist, just you
without all the titles you apply to yourself and others. You were the only one who lived
your life n ...[text shortened]... ing. I'm just asking
for what you believed, back in the time for 30 years that you believed it.

Just assume I was never a Christian.

Originally posted by @fmf
Just assume I was never a Christian.

So you admit it?

Originally posted by @kellyjay
I'm just asking
for what you believed, back in the time for 30 years that you believed it.

I know.

I have no objection to you talking to me as an atheist who you think was never a Christian.

I have no objection to you branding me a liar.

You are talking to an atheist poster.

I have nothing to prove.

I simply have my current perspectives to share.

Stop running away.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
So you admit it?

No of course not. But just go with your debating gimmick. Assume that I lied. It's fine by me. Just assume I was never a Christian.

Originally posted by @fmf
I know.

I have no objection to you talking to me as an atheist who you think was never a Christian.

I have no objection to you branding me a liar.

You are talking to an atheist poster.

I have nothing to prove.

I simply have my current perspectives to share.

Stop running away.

I'm not going anywhere, we can settle that right now.
I'm not talking to a title, I'm talking to you, someone who claimed was a Christian for over
30 years. What was it you believed the gospel was back when you were living it?

Originally posted by @kellyjay
I'm not going anywhere, we can settle that right now.
I'm not talking to a title, I'm talking to you, someone who claimed was a Christian for over
30 years. What was it you believed the gospel was back when you were living it?

I have nothing to prove to you. I accept your label of "liar".

Just talk to me as if I was lying about being a Christian and as I have now admitted that I have always been an atheist.

Originally posted by @fmf
No of course not. But just go with your debating gimmick. Assume that I lied. It's fine by me. Just assume I was never a Christian.

I just want an answer, I gain nothing from thinking you are less than truthful, that adds
nothing to me or you. If you want people to think you are a liar that is on you not me, all
I want is an answer to a question. When I first asked that, I had no idea you would go
through such lengths to refuse to answer it, all the while making demands on me for
answering your questions. I will remind you I was answering your questions, until this
started, there isn't a question you've asked that I don't believe I've already answered
a few times.

Originally posted by @fmf
I have nothing to prove to you. I accept your label of "liar".

Just talk to me as if I was lying about being a Christian and as I have now admitted that I have always been an atheist.

My thoughts about you do not define you, I not that important.
Are you really saying you were always an Atheist?

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Are you really saying you were always an Atheist?

Of course not. But you have branded me a liar. I accept that. Just assume I was never a Christian. Stop running away from the discussion we were having.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
I just want an answer, I gain nothing from thinking you are less than truthful, that adds
nothing to me or you. If you want people to think you are a liar that is on you not me, all
I want is an answer to a question. When I first asked that, I had no idea you would go
through such lengths to refuse to answer it, all the while making demands on me for
a ...[text shortened]... ed, there isn't a question you've asked that I don't believe I've already answered
a few times.

Just talk to me as an atheist and tell yourself you were right to call me out for lying.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
I will remind you I was answering your questions, until this started, there isn't a question you've asked that I don't believe I've already answered a few times.

You started this FMF-is-lying thing. It was a dodge. And a deflection, And it still is.

I am an atheist. Let's discuss our beliefs.

Originally posted by @fmf
You started this FMF-is-lying thing. It was a dodge. And a deflection, And it still is.

I am an atheist. Let's discuss our beliefs.

Sure lets, so what was the gospel back when you believed in it for 30 years?

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Sure lets, so what was the gospel back when you believed in it for 30 years?

Assume that I am an atheist ~ and always have been ~ and that you have been the victim of lies.

Originally posted by @fmf
Assume that I am an atheist ~ and always have been ~ and that you have been the victim of lies.

That is an evil thing to assume, how about I think happy thoughts about you that you are
an honest person who once believed in Jesus Christ and no longer does. So what was
the gospel back when you believed in it?