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@KellyJay said
I'm simply admitting we are all guilty.
Sorry, but you cannot "admit" such a thing on behalf of all of us.


@KellyJay said
You realize the one who is perfect in rightousness and goodness is the one you are casting doubt on His good name.
I'm only casting doubt upon some humans' widely propagated concepts and stories about a God Whom they incongruously also say is beyond human comprehension.


@KellyJay said
Accepting scripture in its totality
I don't.


@Arkturos said
I don't.
That is between you and God.


@Arkturos said
I'm only casting doubt upon some humans' widely propagated concepts and stories about a God Whom they incongruously also say is beyond human comprehension.
God is not beyond human comprehension, He has set it up so only those who answer Him when He calls, seeking Him with all their hearts find Him. No one can pull God down to their level on demand.


@KellyJay said
That is between you and God.
If God is omnipresent, then there's nothing between us.


@KellyJay said
God is not beyond human comprehension
Yes It is, I assure you.


@Arkturos said
Yes It is, I assure you.
Really, centuries of those who have had a relationship with God disagree with you, as do I; you are drawing upon what, your singular experiences? The revelation of His Word, the history surrounding the events of scripture, the predictions, the life-changing experiences of those whose lives He turned around stand on one side, and those who disagree stand on the other, it's true or not, history and everything else suggest it is.


@Arkturos said
If God is omnipresent, then there's nothing between us.
You see the result of your sins; one of the deadliest is your separation from God.


@KellyJay said
Really, centuries of those who have had a relationship with God disagree with you, as do I; you are drawing upon what, your singular experiences? The revelation of His Word, the history surrounding the events of scripture, the predictions, the life-changing experiences of those whose lives He turned around stand on one side, and those who disagree stand on the other, it's true or not, history and everything else suggest it is.
Are you including aeons of experiences of others around the Cosmos in your consideration?


@KellyJay said
You see the result of your sins; one of the deadliest is your separation from God.
Sorry to say, but I see a sicko trying to guilt-trip me on the basis of a vengeful and self-serving fantasy.


@Arkturos said
Sorry to say, but I see a sicko trying to guilt-trip me on the basis of a vengeful and self-serving fantasy.
I get nothing out of your acceptance or rejection of God; He does not need me. I have to admit I’m a sinner, letting you know I’m just as guilty as everyone else. If you believe you’re better than all the rest, that is between you and God.

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@KellyJay said
I get nothing out of your acceptance or rejection of God; He does not need me. I have to admit I’m a sinner, letting you know I’m just as guilty as everyone else. If you believe you’re better than all the rest, that is between you and God.
re: "I get nothing out of your acceptance or rejection of God"
Similar to the case where some of the people here often write, "Nobody cares" -- well, they must have cared enough to write even that.

re: " If you believe you’re better than all the rest, that is between you and God."
1) I don't. Where did you get that idea? You seem to be lashing out.
2) Between me and which God of whose understanding?

If you were ever sincere about your Christian faith and the death of your daughter at a very young age, I'm sympathetic. It's understandable that this would be an even more difficult time of year.

If for you there might be any special value in you and me (such as I am) agreeing about something, where could we agree?

What I have to offer at the moment is this: Abide, abide, abide, and accept.

I feel like I'm reading between the lines here to interpret the posts of someone who generally hasn't seemed to be so personally combative in defense of their faith.

Doing okay over there?


@Arkturos said
re: "I get nothing out of your acceptance or rejection of God"
Similar to the case where some of the people here often write, "Nobody cares" -- well, they must have cared enough to write even that.

re: " If you believe you’re better than all the rest, that is between you and God."
1) I don't. Where did you get that idea? You seem to be lashing out.
2) Between me and w ...[text shortened]... lly hasn't seemed to be so personally combative in defense of their faith.

Doing okay over there?
I care because of what Jesus did for us, when He did not have to. We are guilty of so many things we have done against God, other people, and ourselves. So He gets the reward for His suffering. I lift Him, those who come to Him, He deserves; those who do not will get what they deserve.


@KellyJay said
I care because of what Jesus did for us, when He did not have to. We are guilty of so many things we have done against God, other people, and ourselves. So He gets the reward for His suffering. I lift Him, those who come to Him, He deserves; those who do not will get what they deserve.
So incredibly anti-Christian of you. What is wrong with you?!!!

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