Getting past eternal torture

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
You're insulted by hamsters?!

Whatever gave you that impression?

Unless of course you are the Ghost of a hamster disguised as a Duke.

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I've said here may times that I adhere to Annihilationism. This means I don't believe the concept of 'eternal torment'. How do you 'manage' concepts you don't believe in?

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Most non-Christians don't believe in it, either.

Therefore, it doesn't come up. Your question seems a non-sequitur.

The only times I've ever seen it come up in conversation is as with certain people here who are looking to score political points with the topic. I do not use it as a 'gotcha' when talking about Christianity. I'd rather discuss what benefits having Jesus in our lives brings to our lives daily.

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My experience is that few Christians (some Southern Baptists and Pentecostals come to mind) wield the concept like a hammer when talking about the Bible or Christianity. I also don't attend churches whose main message seems to be about "hellfire and damnation!!" I usually don't engage these people, just like I don't engage the guy on the streetcorner screaming "Repent!" at passing cars.

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You don't manage it, it isn't up to you. You may plant, you may water, it isn't you that makes
anything grow. If you think it is has to do with your efforts, than its you not God who is
doing the work, and nothing you do alone is going to be of the eternal nature.

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No, didn't ignore it, I said it didn't matter.

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(You don't manage it, it isn't up to you. You may plant, you may water, it isn't you that makes
anything grow. If you think it is has to do with your efforts, than its you not God who is
doing the work, and nothing you do alone is going to be of the eternal nature.)

You see that is it all on God not you and I, with respect to making things grow? None of
us can come to Jesus unless the Father draws them. Unless the Lord builds the house
those that labor do it in vain. You should stop making it about us, and focus on the Lord.

1 Corinthians 3:7
So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth.

John 6:44
No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.

Psalm 127:1
Unless the Lord builds the house, those who build it labor in vain. Unless the Lord watches over the city, the watchman stays awake in vain.