Originally posted by Proper KnobHumans were created in the image of God, who can
[b]Who are you to judge what is (un)Christian?
Sorry, was i just meant to let you insult me and say thanks very much?!
When Jesus the Christ called the Pharisees, "blind guides" and "fools", do you think he meant it as a compliment or an insult?
Nice try, but ridiculous comparison. I was asking you to explain an answer to a question, ...[text shortened]... 'task'.
Anyhow, are you going to answer my question or just keep on insulting me?[/b]
design and create many things. The ape is like all
the other animals. To suggest that apes are my relatives
is not a compliment, in my opinion. Therefore, I consider
your statement an insult in the same way you consider
my statement an insult.
Originally posted by RJHindsNot only was an ape an ancestor of yours, so was a worm.
Humans were created in the image of God, who can
design and create many things. The ape is like all
the other animals. To suggest that apes are my relatives
is not a compliment, in my opinion. Therefore, I consider
your statement an insult in the same way you consider
my statement an insult.
Originally posted by JS357The Holy Bible reports many things from the point of view
I propose that your colleagues on the other side of this discussion respect your acknowledgment that in Joshua 10:13, the Bible recounts the historical events in a way that is consistent with the point of view of the human observer.
of the human observer, even when there was no human to
observe anything. It began in Genesis. How else was man
to understand it?
Originally posted by RJHindsYou wrote "Holy Bible"...are you sure you didn't mean "holey Bible"? There were humans around to observe things long before your god supposedly created the Earth ;]
The Holy Bible reports many things from the point of view
of the human observer, even when there was no human to
observe anything. It began in Genesis. How else was man
to understand it?
Originally posted by AgergIf I read and understand the Holy Bible correctly, God
You wrote "Holy Bible"...are you sure you didn't mean "holey Bible"? There were humans around to observe things long before your god supposedly created the Earth ;]
created the heavens and the earth before a human
could observe it. It gives no detail as to how log ago this was.
The earth was completely covered with water and in complete
darkness. Then, on the first day God caused light to appear.
The details are not mentioned. There are other places in Genesis
where a day refers to a period of time, as "in his day". But since
it includes evening and morning here, I believe it is probably
referring to a 24 hour day as we know it. Then on the second day,
God caused some of the waters on the earth to rise so that it was
divided by a part of heaven. This was probably water vapor that
would eventually form clouds, in my opinion. Then on the third day,
God caused the waters on the earth to gather so dry land and seas
appeared and he created all plant life in the seas and on the land.
These plants were to yield seed after their kind and the trees
were to bear fruit, with seed in them, after there kind. Apparently,
these plants would have the appearance of age to be able yield seed.
Then on the fourth day the lights in the heavens would
appear to an observer on earth. These lights must have been the
sun, moon, and stars. The suns rays would be needed for the plant
life. Then on the fifth day, God created all the animal life in the seas.
He also created winged birds to fly in the sky. These were,
apparently created with the appearance of age because they had
to be grown to reproduce after their kind as the Holy Bible says.
The birds were the first land animals because they were to multiply
on the earth. Then on the sixth day, all the other land animals
were created fully formed with the appearance of age, for they too
were to reproduce after their kind. Then finally, God created the
humans, male and female, so they could reproduce after their kind.
So these humans would have the appearance of age because a baby
would not be capable of reproduction as commanded by God.
Also for us today, the sun, moon, stars, etc. would appear much
older than they actually are. That is my brief understanding of
Genesis 1:1-27.
Originally posted by RJHindsAll sounds like something a human in a primitive society would suppose he/she would do to create a planet were they a god.
If I read and understand the Holy Bible correctly, God
created the heavens and the earth before a human
could observe it. It gives no detail as to how log ago this was.
The earth was completely covered with water and in complete
darkness. Then, on the first day God caused light to appear.
The details are not mentioned. There are other places in Genesis ...[text shortened]... appear much
older than they actually are. That is my brief understanding of
Genesis 1:1-27.
You actually believe this is what actually happened!? Crikey...and people couldn't take seriously my faith in Tolkein and the Middle Earth 'Theory'! 😲
Originally posted by AgergYes, I believe something like this actually happened.
All sounds like something a human in a primitive society would suppose he/she would do to create a planet were they a god.
You actually believe this is what actually happened!? Crikey...and people couldn't take seriously my faith in Tolkein and the Middle Earth 'Theory'! 😲
In my faith I have a Savior, who offers to forgive my sins
and raise me from the dead as He was raised from the dead.
That is hard to beat.
Originally posted by RJHindsHow else was man to understand it?
The Holy Bible reports many things from the point of view
of the human observer, even when there was no human to
observe anything. It began in Genesis. How else was man
to understand it?
As far as I am concerned there is no argument.
There must have been a reason that vindicates the Bible as the true Word of God, including Joshua 10:13.
If we do not know that reason, too bad for us. Maybe. with faith, we will, someday.
This position is inarguable.
Originally posted by RJHindsSaying the offer to forgive sins and raise you from the dead is hard to beat, makes it sound to me like Christian faith is driven by the prospect of personal gain, or, at least, the prospect of personal gain is at the center of it. It is also a commonly stated "selling point" of Christianity. I have always wondered about that. I wonder if that way of thinking is a result of living in a personal gain-oriented world. Maybe you can clarify.
Yes, I believe something like this actually happened.
In my faith I have a Savior, who offers to forgive my sins
and raise me from the dead as He was raised from the dead.
That is hard to beat.
Originally posted by JS357A true believer knows that he may face ridicule, prejudice,
Saying the offer to forgive sins and raise you from the dead is hard to beat, makes it sound to me like Christian faith is driven by the prospect of personal gain, or, at least, the prospect of personal gain is at the center of it. It is also a commonly stated "selling point" of Christianity. I have always wondered about that. I wonder if that way of thinking is a result of living in a personal gain-oriented world. Maybe you can clarify.
injustice, persecution, and many other troubles in this life.
Jesus the Christ has instructed us to do unto others as we
would have them do unto us. Besides having a new better
body when we are raised from the dead, we will receive
rewards for the good things we do on this earth today.
I may give money to help others, but I do not give money
to become rich in this world. I do not believe in that kind
of religion.
Originally posted by AThousandYoungWell, so they can see is only what happens because they have them, it does not
So they can see. Why do snakes and whales have vestigial legs? They don't walk.
at all go to why they are there. The legs, could be because they had them and now
they are losing them, losing limbs or other body parts is easy, building new ones
not so much. It is a lot easier to lose information than aquire more to do work.
The legs and eyes both are there just like everything other body part, they are
part of the current basic design at this time.
Kelly