Originally posted by KellyJayI'm trying to build a picture of your 'scheme of life'. So we've now established that all life started at the same point around 8,000yrs ago or so.
I'm not trying to be a smart arse. I don't know what your shooting for, I thought
that answered your question. Yes, they would have had to been together on the
planet at the same time.
Kelly
Humans coexisted with dinosaurs?! You really believe that?
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Originally posted by KellyJayIt still does not stop you from reaching a point now that whatever the
I get that! It still does not stop you from reaching a point now that whatever the
odds are against what you believe to be true, your going to go with the theory.
That is faith that has reached the point that is cannot look for ways to show itself
wrong.
Kelly
odds are against what you believe to be true, your going to go with the theory.
Says the guy who believes all life started on the planet 8,000yrs ago and that humans co-existed with dinosaurs!!!
That is faith that has reached the point that is cannot look for ways to show itself
wrong.
As i've said, when the evidence has been produced that falsifies the theory i'll make a reevaluation. As of yet that hasn't happened, in fact it's quite the opposite.
Originally posted by Proper KnobWhy not, if you read the creation story nothing ate meat in the beginning?
I'm trying to build a picture of your 'scheme of life'. So we've now established that all life started at the same point around 8,000yrs ago or so.
Humans coexisted with dinosaurs?! You really believe that?
The issue you dislike about the two being on the planet together have to do with
dating methods or something else?
Kelly
Originally posted by Proper KnobIf my beliefs about the past are off base completely, and I've already said I can
[b]It still does not stop you from reaching a point now that whatever the
odds are against what you believe to be true, your going to go with the theory.
Says the guy who believes all life started on the planet 8,000yrs ago and that humans co-existed with dinosaurs!!![/b]
be wrong about that, big deal. None of that matters when we are talking about
the part where we can build systems or not with random inputs even with natural
selection. So are we going to take this discussion on evolution turn it into a
personal insult to me and drop it?
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayWhy not, if you read the creation story nothing ate meat in the beginning?
Why not, if you read the creation story nothing ate meat in the beginning?
The issue you dislike about the two being on the planet together have to do with
dating methods or something else?
Kelly
Kelly, dinosaur fossils have been found with fossils inside their stomachs. Look at the teeth of carnivorous dinosaurs they're for eating meat. What did a T-Rex eat? Spinach salad??
Originally posted by Proper KnobI said in the beginning nothing ate meat, that changed obviously or there would be
[b]Why not, if you read the creation story nothing ate meat in the beginning?
Kelly, dinosaur fossils have been found with fossils inside their stomachs. Look at the teeth of carnivorous dinosaurs they're for eating meat. What did a T-Rex eat? Spinach salad??[/b]
nothing eating meat today! Scripturally not only would man and the dinosaurs
have to live together they would have had to also end up on the Ark as well along
with all the other kinds. This moving away from evolution now?
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayScripturally not only would man and the dinosaurs have to live together they would have had to also end up on the Ark as well along with all the other kinds.
I said in the beginning nothing ate meat, that changed obviously or there would be
nothing eating meat today! Scripturally not only would man and the dinosaurs
have to live together they would have had to also end up on the Ark as well along
with all the other kinds. This moving away from evolution now?
Kelly
So the dinosaurs were on the Ark also, that's a helluva boat. So if the dinosaurs were alive after the flood, which was around 4,000yrs ago, when and how did they all die? Also what happened to the 250,000 (and growing) different species that have been identified in the fossil record?
This moving away from evolution now?
It has for the time being. This is far more interesting.
Originally posted by Proper KnobThe vast majority of all life died at the time of the flood, what remained simply
[b]Scripturally not only would man and the dinosaurs have to live together they would have had to also end up on the Ark as well along with all the other kinds.
So the dinosaurs were on the Ark also, that's a helluva boat. So if the dinosaurs were alive after the flood, which was around 4,000yrs ago, when and how did they all die? Also what happen ...[text shortened]... moving away from evolution now?[/b]
It has for the time being. This is far more interesting.[/b]
made due or died off later. The boat only required to take a kind not all of the
vast array of life on the planet at that time, and it also only had to take that which
would have off spring so the young *smaller* versions of everything would be
needed not something who could have been growing since they day they were
made and were quiet large.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayI'm actually flabbergasted that you believe this. Truly remarkable.
The vast majority of all life died at the time of the flood, what remained simply
made due or died off later. The boat only required to take a kind not all of the
vast array of life on the planet at that time, and it also only had to take that which
would have off spring so the young *smaller* versions of everything would be
needed not something who could have been growing since they day they were
made and were quiet large.
Kelly
How do you reconcile the fact that there is no scientific evidence that supports your beliefs?
Originally posted by Proper KnobWe have some built in blinders when it comes to the distant past, we can look at
I'm actually flabbergasted that you believe this. Truly remarkable.
How do you reconcile the fact that there is no scientific evidence that supports your beliefs?
what we see and we can come up with what we think it means. This means as far
as the distant past is concern we are left with our imaginations more than we care
to admit. When looking at rates for example, unless we can actually monitor them
to the point where we can confirm our readiings actually means what we say, we
are dealing with assumptions, and assumptions are not always a reflection of
reality.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayKelly I am sure you are good, decent and devout person, but its thinking like yours that actually drives people away from Christianity. Blind Faith is one thing, but being purposefully blind to the very obvious facts...well, it just makes Christians look stupid.
I said in the beginning nothing ate meat, that changed obviously or there would be
nothing eating meat today! Scripturally not only would man and the dinosaurs
have to live together they would have had to also end up on the Ark as well along
with all the other kinds. This moving away from evolution now?
Kelly
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Originally posted by DowardThat's all fine and good, I'm quite sure you can pick and choose those parts of
Kelly I am sure you are good, decent and devout person, but its thinking like yours that actually drives people away from Christianity. Blind Faith is one thing, but being purposefully blind to the very obvious facts...well, it just makes Christians look stupid.
scripture you think are good which you think are not. I'm not attempting to force
my beliefs on anyone here, he asks me I'm going to give him an honest answer.
You don't like my answers that is fine and good, you want me to lie, not going to
happen just to be accepted. As far as I'm concern, God is quite able to speak the
universe into being and fill it up with life as its recorded in scripture, human
acceptance not required.
Kelly
Originally posted by DowardWhat obvious facts are you refering to by the way?
Kelly I am sure you are good, decent and devout person, but its thinking like yours that actually drives people away from Christianity. Blind Faith is one thing, but being purposefully blind to the very obvious facts...well, it just makes Christians look stupid.
Kelly