1. Standard memberHalitose
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    31 Aug '05 08:00
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    So you accept your religion is polytheistic, mine isn't btw.
    You don't think satan exists? Who tempted Christ then?
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    31 Aug '05 08:12
    Originally posted by Halitose
    You don't think satan exists? Who tempted Christ then?
    not a who, a "what". the same "what" that peter asked him to do later.
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    31 Aug '05 08:16
    Originally posted by Halitose
    You don't think satan exists? Who tempted Christ then?
    It must have been Froggy's logo.
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    31 Aug '05 08:19
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    It must have been Froggy's logo.
    word
  5. Standard memberHalitose
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    31 Aug '05 10:43
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    not a who, a "what". the same "what" that peter asked him to do later.
    Not die?
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    31 Aug '05 11:14
    Originally posted by Halitose
    Not die?
    use his power for worldly reasons,,,, King of the World..
    You think Christ needed to be told He could do that, not to mention how dangerous the supposed Devil would have known getting anywhere near Christ would be since Christ could have ended the Devil's existence with a Word.
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    31 Aug '05 13:32
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    use his power for worldly reasons,,,, King of the World..
    You think Christ needed to be told He could do that, not to mention how dangerous the supposed Devil would have known getting anywhere near Christ would be since Christ could have ended the Devil's existence with a Word.
    This is getting a little confusing. You don't believe Christ's temptation in the desert as portrayed in the gospels?
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    31 Aug '05 13:592 edits
    Originally posted by checkbaiter
    Of course satan was an angel once. And he was cast down for his rebellion. But God is omnipotent, that is He already knew satan would rebel before He created him. So why did he create evil in the first place?
    Sounds too clever by half.

    Why create evil....big g is obviously a twisted demented nasty piece of work
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    31 Aug '05 14:27
    Originally posted by aardvarkhome
    Sounds too clever by half.

    Why create evil....big g is obviously a twisted demented nasty piece of work
    Why create evil

    Lets have a quick run of rudimentary logic here. Feel free to change...

    1. If God created man truly seperate and free to choose his own actions, then that very creative act allows the possibility of circumstances which God deems unacceptable.

    2. These cirsumstances deemed unacceptible by God are called evil.

    3. Hence, if anything other than God exists, then the possibility of evil must also exist.
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    31 Aug '05 14:30
    Originally posted by Halitose
    Why create evil
    I guess the question could just as easily be why create. Hier ist kein warum.
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    31 Aug '05 14:32
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    I guess the question could just as easily be why create. Hier ist kein warum.
    Warum nicht? 😉
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    31 Aug '05 14:35
    Originally posted by Halitose
    Warum nicht? 😉
    Es ist nur so.

    Do you recognise the warum quote?
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    31 Aug '05 14:36
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    Es ist nur so.

    Do you recognise the warum quote?
    Do you recognise the warum quote?

    I'm afraid not. Pray enlighten...
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    31 Aug '05 14:39
    Originally posted by Halitose
    [b]Do you recognise the warum quote?

    I'm afraid not. Pray enlighten...[/b]
    From a review of Primo Levi's book If This is a Man.

    "The immense camp where Levi and his fellow-prisoners suffered and mostly died never produced a pound of synthetic rubber, which was its ostensible purpose. Its real purpose was death. On one occasion, denied even an icicle to assuage thirst, he asked in his broken German, ‘Warum?’ The guard replied, ‘Hier ist kein warum’ (there is no why here)."
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    31 Aug '05 14:44
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    From a review of Primo Levi's book If This is a Man.

    "The immense camp where Levi and his fellow-prisoners suffered and mostly died never produced a pound of synthetic rubber, which was its ostensible purpose. Its real purpose was death. On one occasion, denied even an icicle to assuage thirst, he asked in his broken German, ‘Warum?’ The guard replied, ‘Hier ist kein warum’ (there is no why here)."
    Okay. I guess you can look at it from the perspective that God, having created a creature that is capable of both evil and good, created evil.
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