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30 Oct 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyIsa 6:5-7
[b]"God's person..."
Ever give any serious thought to the attributes of the essence of God's person, specifically our point of contact with Him?[/b]
5 So I said:
"Woe is me, for I am undone!
Because I am a man of unclean lips,
And I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips;
For my eyes have seen the King,
The Lord of hosts."
6 Then one of the seraphim flew to me, having in his hand a live coal which he had taken with the tongs from the altar. 7 And he touched my mouth with it, and said:
"Behold, this has touched your lips;
Your iniquity is taken away,
And your sin purged."
NKJV
30 Oct 14
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Thanks for the honesty of your replies. Yes, God is a person* a supernatural being as opposed to an abstruse concept, nebulous force, unknowable supernatural entity or figment of someone's imagination (Exodus 3:14). Here's the context
of God's declaration to Moses given in the Burning Bush passage in the Old Testament Book of Exodus 3:1-15 (NASB)
"Now Moses was pasturing the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian; and he led the flock to the [a] west side of the wilderness and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. 2 The angel of the Lord appeared to him in a blazing fire from the midst of [b ] a bush; and he looked, and behold, the bush was burning with fire, yet the bush was not consumed. 3 So Moses said, “[c] I must turn aside now and see this [d] marvelous sight, why the bush is not burned up.” 4 When the Lord saw that he turned aside to look, God called to him from the midst of the bush and said, “Moses, Moses!” And he said, “Here I am.” 5 Then He said, “Do not come near here; remove your sandals from your feet, for the place on which you are standing is holy ground.” 6 He said also, “I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” Then Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God.
7 The Lord said, “I have surely seen the affliction of My people who are in Egypt, and have given heed to their cry because of their taskmasters, for I am aware of their sufferings. 8 So I have come down to deliver them from the [e] power of the Egyptians, and to bring them up from that land to a good and spacious land, to a land flowing with milk and honey, to the place of the Canaanite and the Hittite and the Amorite and the Perizzite and the Hivite and the Jebusite. 9 Now, behold, the cry of the sons of Israel has come to Me; furthermore, I have seen the oppression with which the Egyptians are oppressing them. [The Mission of Moses] 10 Therefore, come now, and I will send you to Pharaoh, so that you may bring My people, the sons of Israel, out of Egypt.” 11 But Moses said to God, “Who am I, that I should go to Pharaoh, and that I should bring the sons of Israel out of Egypt?” 12 And He said, “Certainly I will be with you, and this shall be the sign to you that it is I who have sent you: when you have brought the people out of Egypt, you shall [f]worship God at this mountain.”
13 Then Moses said to God, “Behold, I am going to the sons of Israel, and I will say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you.’ Now they may say to me, ‘What is His name?’ What shall I say to them?” 14 God said to Moses, “[g] I AM WHO [h] I AM”; and He said, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘[i ]I AM has sent me to you.’” 15 God, furthermore, said to Moses..." Footnotes: a. Exodus 3:1 Or rear part; b. Exodus 3:2 Lit the; c. Exodus 3:3 Lit Let me turn; d. Exodus 3:3 Lit great; e. Exodus 3:8 Lit hand; f. Exodus 3:12 Or serve; g. [h. and i.] Exodus 3:14 Related to the name of God, YHWH, rendered Lord, which is derived from the verb HAYAH, to be; j.Exodus 3:15 Lit to generation of generation"
*The Biblical Doctrine of the Trinity will come up at an appropriate time if objective interest in discussion of this overarching topic continues. Next, comments regarding each of the Attributes of God: Sovereignty; Love; Eternal Life; Righteousness; Justice; Omniscience; Omnipotence; Omnipresence; Veracity and Immutability which define the essence of God's Integrity.
30 Oct 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI'm preparing the popcorn now.
*The Biblical Doctrine of the Trinity will come up at an appropriate time if objective interest in discussion of this overarching topic continues. Next, comments regarding each of the Attributes of God: Sovereignty; Love; Eternal Life; Righteousness; Justice; Omniscience; Omnipotence; Omnipresence; Veracity and Immutability which define the essence of God's Integrity.
I predict much gnashing of teeth over this.
31 Oct 14
Originally posted by wolfgang59People have to entertain a truth in order to reject it. If and when a particular truth becomes inconvenient and grates against our sensibilities, we become predisposed against it and block it out. Then I suppose you could say that "an important point" was difficult to understand and abstruse. None of us can accept any truth if we're prejudiced against it. All Christians are expected to grow in grace by learning the Word of God and in any forum population are all at different stages of growth.
I thought an important point was that your god was abstruse?
Certainly he is to some of the Christians here.
31 Oct 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyPeople can also entertain an idea, consider it, believe it, reconsider it, realize that it is not credible and that they don't believe it, and then reject it. The word "truth" in matters such as these is, of course, entirely subjective. For me, the tenets of Christian faith did not become "inconvenient", they became untenable.
People have to entertain a truth in order to reject it. If and when a particular truth becomes inconvenient and grates against our sensibilities, we become predisposed against it and block it out.
