Good behaviours vs beliefs

@kellyjay said
That is your normal pattern, just as I said.

In so far as it is a "pattern", yes, far to often, I have to respond to your self-pitying, evasive nonsense. It happens almost every time you back yourself into a discursive cul-de-sac and you take flight from whatever we were talking about.

@fmf said
In so far as it is a "pattern", yes, far to often, I have to respond to your self-pitying, evasive nonsense. It happens almost every time you back yourself into a discursive cul-de-sac and you take flight from whatever we were talking about.

You should try speaking to the points instead of the person, you should try looking at the validity of the arguments instead of concerning yourself with where you think they came from. I think you have simply been justifying your actions and not looking at what was said. You have only validated my point, I am going to stop here it’s clear you feel completely right in all you are doing here, nothing said to you matters.

@kellyjay said
Can you avoid saying that is just an opinion, or that is just faith speech, or all of your other marginalizing verbiage and just stay on topic?

KellyJay, in line with your comment to FMF earlier… do you think your opinion on truth should be “held in more regard” than the opinions of others who disagree with you?

@kellyjay said
You should try speaking to the points instead of the person, you should try looking at the validity of the arguments instead of concerning yourself with where you think they came from.

I do address the "arguments" [which are mostly mere assertions, in fact] that you offer in support of the personal opinions you share.

@kellyjay said
I think you have simply been justifying your actions and not looking at what was said.

I am constantly looking at the substance of your personal opinions and offering mine in return.

@kellyjay said
I am going to stop here it’s clear you feel completely right in all you are doing here, nothing said to you matters.

Please do. You are correct.

@fmf said
Please do. You are correct.

I know

@kellyjay said
I know

KellyJay, in line with your comment to FMF earlier… do you think your opinion on truth should be “held in more regard” than the opinions of others who disagree with you?

@divegeester said
KellyJay, in line with your comment to FMF earlier… do you think your opinion on truth should be “held in more regard” than the opinions of others who disagree with you?

I think opinions need to be looked at individually, not according to who says them, but the soundness of the logic used, and the sources quoted. My opinion and anyone else’ should not be viewed according to who says what, instead how inline with the truth of reality is it? To reject anything by definition only without examination isn’t even addressing the topic, instead by prejudice.

@kellyjay said
I think opinions need to be looked at individually, not according to who says them, but the soundness of the logic used, and the sources quoted. My opinion and anyone else’ should not be viewed according to who says what, instead how inline with the truth of reality is it? To reject anything by definition only without examination isn’t even addressing the topic, instead by prejudice.

Who is it you think has rejected something "without examination"?

@kellyjay said
To reject anything by definition only without examination isn’t even addressing the topic, instead by prejudice.

If you are equating rejection/disagreement with "prejudice" or if you are dismissing rejection/disagreement because of a supposed lack of examination, then that's rhetorically weak.

@kellyjay said
I think opinions need to be looked at individually, not according to who says them, but the soundness of the logic used, and the sources quoted. My opinion and anyone else’ should not be viewed according to who says what, instead how inline with the truth of reality is it? To reject anything by definition only without examination isn’t even addressing the topic, instead by prejudice.

Is that yes or a no KellyJay?

@divegeester said
Is that yes or a no KellyJay?

You cannot tell, seriously?

@kellyjay said
You cannot tell, seriously?

I might be argumentative and annoying to some, but I’m honest kellyjay. And no, I cannot tell from what you wrote, wether you mean yes or no.

Why don’t you repost exactly what you wrote, prefixed with an unequivocal “yes” or “no”, so I know where you stand before I read the rest?

Just a suggestion.

@divegeester said
I might be argumentative and annoying to some, but I’m honest kellyjay. And no, I cannot tell from what you wrote, wether you mean yes or no.

Why don’t you repost exactly what you wrote, prefixed with an unequivocal “yes” or “no”, so I know where you stand before I read the rest?

Just a suggestion.

When I say opinions need to be looked at individually you think I am not including fmf and my opinions? Must I name each of us because you can’t grasp ours are not the only ones that matter?