11 Feb 22
@kellyjay saidIf discerning good from evil would be no different for you than discerning between types of ice cream without all that Bible "pipe dream" stuff "between your ears", then thank goodness for those you interact with.
If that was all that was taking place it would be no different figuring out what is good from evil, than ordering a favorite ice cream.
@kellyjay saidThe temperature out here on my terrace at this very moment. The dates of Idul Fitri in Indonesia in 2022. The fact that the UK doesn't have capital punishment. The number of states in the U.S. The price of this smartphone when I bought it. The number of children I have. What the content of the U.S. Bill of Rights is.
Name a few objective facts.
@fmf saidI like that good, and those are true right now, and will remain true that at this moment in time those were true. I say at this moment because things change correct?
The temperature out here on my terrace at this very moment. The dates of Idul Fitri in Indonesia in 2022. The fact that the UK doesn't have capital punishment. The number of states in the U.S. The price of this smartphone when I bought it. The number of children I have. What the content of the U.S. Bill of Rights is.
@fmf saidReally temperatures change, what is written could be altered so you choose things that were true in a point in history which means that truth was true then maybe not now. Has the temperature remained constant from when you wrote that?
There was something wrong with how you wrote it. Last 8 words are incomprehensible.
@kellyjay saidIf this is some kind of thought exercise to demonstrate that objective facts DON'T exist, go for it. I don't see how it helps your "Hell" is as "real as rocks" assertion.
what is written could be altered so you choose things that were true in a point in history which means that truth was true then maybe not now.
@fmf saidNo, I'm just confirming that if something is true, it is always true.
If this is some kind of thought exercise to demonstrate that objective facts DON'T exist, go for it. I don't see how it helps your "Hell" is as "real as rocks" assertion.
@kellyjay saidNot necessarily. I had $110, and now I have $16.
No, I'm just confirming that if something is true, it is always true.