Originally posted by Proper KnobMaybe someone should go cave to cave and poll them. 😛
Whodey? Are you going to answer my question or run away?
As I've said in the past, not all of them are violent extremists, but it only takes a small percentage out of 1.6 billion to be a huge problem
What percentage of Nazi's were there in Germany? I'm guessing a small percentage to begin with.
Originally posted by JS357
The Albigensian crusade and massacre occurred in the early 13th century, many centuries after God ordered massacres. And it was done in God's name. "Kill them all, God will know his own" is remembered from that event.
What happened, between then and now, that you think has rendered Christianity incapable of supporting violent crusade against infidels? The Bible hasn't changed.
In the parable of the wheat and the tares in Matthew 13:24-30, the interpretation of which He provided for us in verses 36 -43, Jesus taught how His disciples were to deal with false believers, or if you wish "infidels".
The parable says - "And the slaves of the master came and said to him, Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? Where then did the tares come from?
And he said to them, An enemy has done this. And the slaves said to him, Do you want us then to go and collect them?
But he said, No, lest while collecting the tares, you uproot the wheat along with them. Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, Collect first the tares and bind them into bundles to burn them up, but the wheat gather into my barn." (vs. 27-30)
Jesus explains the teaching - " ... the field is the world; and the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil one; And the enemy who sowed them is the devil; and the harvest is the consummation of the age; and the reapers are angels.
Therefore just as the tares are collected and burned up with fire, so will it be at the consummation of the age. The Son of Man will send His angels, and they will collect out of His kingdom all the stumbling blocks and those who practice lawlessness, And will cast them into the furnace of fire. In that place there will be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth.
Then the righteous will shine forth like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear." (vs. 38-43)
Any attempt of Christians to rid the WORLD of false Christians or terminate unbelievers through persecution and killing is diametrically opposed to the teaching of Christ and the "hasn't changed" Bible you speak of.
That Christianity has not always followed this teaching, cannot be disputed. Christianity has NOT always heeded Christ's words to not attempt to rid the world of unbelievers. But that the teaching of Jesus was to let the angels of God at the consummation of the age do such work, because they will not make mistakes, is what He said and what we will be examined about, concerning our obedience to it.
Originally posted by whodeyFaced with your failure to substantiate your claim that Islam has an 'open ended goal of world domination' you resort to making derogatory comments instead. Pitiful really.
Maybe someone should go cave to cave and poll them. 😛
As I've said in the past, not all of them are violent extremists, but it only takes a small percentage out of 1.6 billion to be a huge problem
What percentage of Nazi's were there in Germany? I'm guessing a small percentage to begin with.
Originally posted by Proper KnobMuslim Leaders Declare Aim Of World Domination. Rome, London, Spain, Paris, America, ISIS
Faced with your failure to substantiate your claim that Islam has an 'open ended goal of world domination' you resort to making derogatory comments instead. Pitiful really.
The Beast : ISIS Islamic Caliphate in the Middle East bringing rise to the Al Mahdi (Jun 18, 2014)
November 2014 Breaking News ISIS CalipHATE ISLAM plans world domination
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Originally posted by Proper KnobWhat is pitiful are people who think that a war monger, a murderer, rapist, slave owner, and child molester is perfect and should be emulated.
Faced with your failure to substantiate your claim that Islam has an 'open ended goal of world domination' you resort to making derogatory comments instead. Pitiful really.
You fail to realize that Islam is simply mimicking Mo.
Originally posted by whodeyIslam is a religion, it can't mimick anyone. People though can mimick other people. That is what you seem to continually fail to realise.
What is pitiful are people who think that a war monger, a murderer, rapist, slave owner, and child molester is perfect and should be emulated.
You fail to realize that Islam is simply mimicking Mo.
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As alluded to by Proper Knob, the general populace doesn't seem to know what's going on 'over there' , and to believe non-independent news scources is naive .
Who out there thinks they are well informed on this subject ? ( on a scale of 1 - 10?( 10 being well-informed) .
I would put myself around a 2 or 3
edOriginally posted by whodeyAnd its all because the violence and hatred and blood-lust is embedded in the ideology of the Quaran.
I've come to realize that the greatest problem with Islamic theology is the concept of continual jihad.
In the Bible we have accounts of Hebrews being told to wipe out entire cities and to eventually settle the Promised land and no further.
During the Crusades men came to "liberate" the Holy Land, which is code for looting it, and then coming home. T ...[text shortened]... the Jew/infidel where you find him. There is no end to it. This is perpetual war and genocide.
This book was put together by Muhammad.......... a schizophrenic, megalomaniac, pedophile and violent wack job.
There was never on this earth ........a more unqualified person to portray religiousness and spirituality to the people than this man.
And the Quaran is a childish piece of literary drivel............meant to stir the bloodlust in pathetic ignorant men,
So now we have finally come full circle and we all realize these violent murderers and rapists must face the death penalty.
There is no place on this earth for the disease called "ISLAM".
Originally posted by Proper KnobIslam is not a religion.
Islam is a religion, it can't mimick anyone. People though can mimick other people. That is what you seem to continually fail to realise.
There are characteristics that determine what is true religion and false religion.
Remember I have asked the question many times and not one person knows the difference between true religion and false religion.
When a ideology fails to qualify itself to be a religion............it ceases to be called a RELIGION.
And it shall forevermore be called and remain an IDEOLOGY only.
Originally posted by Proper KnobDo you know that Islam is the religion of Muhammad?
Islam is a religion, it can't mimick anyone. People though can mimick other people. That is what you seem to continually fail to realise.
Muhammad is the founder and chief prophet of Islam and the source for the Quran. "Muhammad" - whose name means "highly praised" - was born in Mecca in 570 AD.
http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/history/prophet.htm#sthash.D6z2uDy0.dpuf
Originally posted by Proper KnobNonsense.
Islam is a religion, it can't mimick anyone. People though can mimick other people. That is what you seem to continually fail to realise.
Muslims follow the Quran. Who is the author of the Quran?
Similarly, Christians follow the teachings of Jesus presented in the NT.
Neither man wrote for himself, rather, Jesus simply relied on eye witness accounts and Mo had someone write everything down for him. Nevertheless, the accounts that we have are the accounts their followers study and try to emulate.
Originally posted by karoly aczelI would put myself around 7 or 8. 😏
As alluded to by Proper Knob, the general populace doesn't seem to know what's going on 'over there' , and to believe non-independent news scources is naive .
Who out there thinks they are well informed on this subject ? ( on a scale of 1 - 10?( 10 being well-informed) .
I would put myself around a 2 or 3
Originally posted by DasaIslam can still be classified as a religion and still be false just like your Vedic religion of Hinduism.
Islam is not a religion.
There are characteristics that determine what is true religion and false religion.
Remember I have asked the question many times and not one person knows the difference between true religion and false religion.
When a ideology fails to qualify itself to be a religion............it ceases to be called a RELIGION.
And it shall forevermore be called and remain an IDEOLOGY only.
Vedic religion, also called Vedism, the religion of the ancient Indo-European-speaking peoples who entered India about 1500 bce from the region of present-day Iran; it takes its name from the collections of sacred texts known as the Vedas. Vedism is the oldest stratum of religious activity in India for which there exist written materials. It was one of the major traditions that shaped Hinduism.
Knowledge of Vedic religion is derived from surviving texts and also from certain rites that continue to be observed within the framework of modern Hinduism. The earliest Vedic religious beliefs included some held in common with other Indo-European-speaking peoples, particularly with the early Iranians. Though it is impossible to say when Vedism eventually gave way to classical Hinduism, a decrease in literary activity among the Vedic schools from the 5th century bce onward can be observed, and about this time texts of Hindu character began to appear.
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/624479/Vedic-religion