Hatred???

Originally posted by galveston75
Matthew 24:9 (New American Standard Bible)

9"(A)Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and (B)you will be hated by all nations because of My name.

Can't be the Romans as that was 1 nation. The scriptures say ALL nations.

I think your mixing up post.
24:9 speaks of the followers of Christ being hated by all nations



Manny

Originally posted by Dan St John
BTW...

Since all non Catholic Bibles have been HEAVILY edited since Martin Luther's time (both content, and in recent years even the substance to fit every tom dick and freak's own "desired" interpretations) my bible may not say the same things as yours.

I know this has nothing to do with the thread, but what are you talking about?
I wasn't aware of any editing going on, and if you are referring to different translations, the the Catholics are just as involved in translation as everyone else. And I wasn't aware that Martin Luther was the first to translate the Bible.

Originally posted by menace71
I think your mixing up post.
24:9 speaks of the followers of Christ being hated by all nations



Manny

Right. That's what this scripture is speaking of. I'm just wanting ones thoughts on this.

Originally posted by galveston75
Right. That's what this scripture is speaking of. I'm just wanting ones thoughts on this.

Christ is referring to the Jehovah Witnesses.

Move along now. Next question.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Christ is referring to the Jehovah Witnesses.

Move along now. Next question.

Tell me who then as you totally disagree? Who???

Originally posted by galveston75
Tell me who then as you totally disagree? Who???

It is what it says. Followers of Christ will be hated and persecuted.
I cant seem to understand your "who then" question.
The answer is "the followers of Christ" or "disciples of Christ".

Or are you nitpicking like the Pharisees?

Originally posted by Rajk999
It is what it says. Followers of Christ will be hated and persecuted.
I cant seem to understand your "who then" question.
The answer is "the followers of Christ" or "disciples of Christ".

Or are you nitpicking like the Pharisees?

No I'm not. But I sure don't see this scripture being fulfilled with these:

From Wikipedia:

Contents [hide]
1 Catholicism
1.1 Roman Catholic Church
1.1.1 Latin Rite
1.1.2 Eastern Catholic Churches
1.2 Eastern Orthodox Church
1.3 Oriental Orthodox Church
1.4 Assyrian Church of the East
1.5 Anglican Communion
1.6 Other churches self-identified as Catholic
1.6.1 Independent
1.6.2 Orthodox
1.6.2.1 Byzantine
1.6.2.2 Oriental
1.6.2.3 Western-Rite
1.6.3 Assyrian
1.6.4 Anglican
2 Protestantism
2.1 Pre-Lutheran Protestants
2.2 Lutheranism
2.3 Anglican Churches
2.4 Reformed Churches
2.5 Presbyterianism
2.6 Congregationalist Churches
2.7 Anabaptists
2.8 Brethren
2.9 Methodists
2.10 Pietists and Holiness Churches
2.11 Baptists
2.11.1 Spiritual Baptists
2.12 Apostolic Churches - Irvingites
2.13 Pentecostalism
2.14 Charismatics
2.14.1 Neo-Charismatic Churches
2.15 African Initiated Churches
2.16 United and uniting churches
2.17 Religious Society of Friends (Quakers)
2.18 Stone-Campbell Restoration Movement
2.19 Southcottites
2.20 Millerites and comparable groups
2.20.1 Sabbath Keeping Churches, Adventist
2.20.2 Sabbath-Keeping Churches, Non-Adventist
2.20.3 Sunday Adventists
2.20.4 Sacred Name Groups
2.21 British-Israelism
2.22 Miscellaneous/Other
3 Latter Day Saints
3.1 "Prairie Saint" denominations
3.2 Rocky Mountains denominations
3.3 Other denominations
4 Nontrinitarian groups
4.1 Oneness Pentecostalism
4.2 Unitarianism and Universalism
4.3 Bible Student groups
4.4 Swedenborgianism
4.5 Other non-Trinitarians
5 Messianic Judaism
6 New Thought
7 Syncretistic religions incorporating elements of Christianity
8 Esoteric Christianity
9 See also
10 References

I think it's funny that were in the non-trinitarian group, which is true, but we're buried out of view here....
And the point is almost all of these are held in high regards with society. Even standing hand and hand with the governments of the world in promoting or supporting wars and deaths of millions of innocent humans, and have been buddys with large corperations with lots of money ties involved..
Anyway we know who the world hates as Jesus warned.

Originally posted by galveston75
No I'm not. But I sure don't see this scripture being fulfilled with these:

From Wikipedia:

Contents [hide]
1 Catholicism
1.1 Roman Catholic Church
1.1.1 Latin Rite
1.1.2 Eastern Catholic Churches
1.2 Eastern Orthodox Church
1.3 Oriental Orthodox Church
1.4 Assyrian Church of the East
1.5 Anglican Communion
1.6 Other churches self- ...[text shortened]... with lots of money ties involved..
Anyway we know who the world hates as Jesus warned.

The ability to distinguish a Biblical guess or an opinion from a Biblical fact or a truth, is not one of your skills.

By pure guesswork you are trying to claim that the JWs are the ones referred to in Matt 24:9.

And thats fine by me.

Originally posted by Rajk999
The ability to distinguish a Biblical guess or an opinion from a Biblical fact or a truth, is not one of your skills.

By pure guesswork you are trying to claim that the JWs are the ones referred to in Matt 24:9.

And thats fine by me.

Well I appreciate that Rajj......🙂

Originally posted by galveston75
Well I appreciate that Rajj......🙂

Stone him!! 😠

Originally posted by galveston75
No I'm not. But I sure don't see this scripture being fulfilled with these:

From Wikipedia:

Contents [hide]
1 Catholicism
1.1 Roman Catholic Church
1.1.1 Latin Rite
1.1.2 Eastern Catholic Churches
1.2 Eastern Orthodox Church
1.3 Oriental Orthodox Church
1.4 Assyrian Church of the East
1.5 Anglican Communion
1.6 Other churches self- ...[text shortened]... with lots of money ties involved..
Anyway we know who the world hates as Jesus warned.

You can't obviously make this claim. Each and every group you know about intimately? Don't think so G-man the logic is flawed. By the way the JW's while expanding really are still failing overall. A very small group compared to other religions in the world.



Manny

Originally posted by menace71
You can't obviously make this claim. Each and every group you know about intimately? Don't think so G-man the logic is flawed. By the way the JW's while expanding really are still failing overall. A very small group compared to other religions in the world.



Manny

This is exactly what I mean. He just copies and pastes, not needing to stand for the point given by the (unknown) source. He doesn't even have to read it before he copies it.

This is about having no opinion of his own. Not have to think. When you know how to copy and paste then you don't have to have any opinion. Just have a blind faith of that the source is correct, you don't even have to verify it. Just copy and paste.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
This is exactly what I mean. He just copies and pastes, not needing to stand for the point given by the (unknown) source. He doesn't even have to read it before he copies it.

This is about having no opinion of his own. Not have to think. When you know how to copy and paste then you don't have to have any opinion. Just have a blind faith of that the source is correct, you don't even have to verify it. Just copy and paste.

Lol....Yeah Right.

Originally posted by menace71
You can't obviously make this claim. Each and every group you know about intimately? Don't think so G-man the logic is flawed. By the way the JW's while expanding really are still failing overall. A very small group compared to other religions in the world.



Manny

Failing how?

Originally posted by galveston75
Lol....Yeah Right.

Thank you galve: Right.

You're learning, allright, I give you that.