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Hinduism, backdrop to the caste system

Hinduism, backdrop to the caste system

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
I don't want any lovebites from you, if you don't mind. That would be ... eh ... inappropriate.

You have much hate in you, robbie, you do know that, don't you? They don't bother you, still you harbour much unchristian hate for them.

Yet you are very interested what they're doing behind their bedroomdoor.
it was made with reference to your desire to visit gay bars Spanky, i merely wished you luck, where's the hatred in that?

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anyway people, its been real fun, being blasted with cyber rockets, thanks so much. special thanks to beetle for his insightful and learned analysis. apologies to thinkofone for out of turn phrase (even though he was spoiling for a fight from the very start), regards to Fabian, i hope you find true love and too dear Noobster for his humour and humanity, but right now, the greatest team in the history of the game, Die Mannschaft (Germany) are about to take on the might of Espana and i need to prepare my mind for the great event - wish you guys well (i will probably be under another self imposed forum ban for a few months and may not be able to post much)- kind regards Robbie.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
it was made with reference to your desire to visit gay bars Spanky, i merely wished you luck, where's the hatred in that?
Your hatred is against me, according to your earlier personal attacks, isn't much to care about.
Your hatred towards homsexuals, however, scares every non-JW person.

If you represent that cult, then the whole JW cult scares every sane person.
What also scares me is your energy to defend JW of having paedophile activities within the cult.
You hate some, and you defend some.

When we discuss neutral matters you are a nice person. But in between you have problems with your aggression and impuls control. You are, in short, a loose cannon.

I'm glad that we have an internet line between us as protection.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
what about the aspect of their profession dear beetle, surely this is reflected also in Hindu belief ( i myself dont know the text, but i can understand the reasons why)
Hinduism is a tangled forest, and the approach of the Brahmins differs according to their personal understanding of the vedas. Methinks the fundamentalist Hindus of specific rural areas are as much living in the past as the fundamentalist Muslims who respect Sharia and the fundamentalist Christians who refuse to back up the Africans with condoms.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Your nation hasn't even existed for 2,000 years. England is ~1500 years old; it was born when the English defeated King Arthur Pendragon.
While I wouldn't argue about the age of the English nation (well, I might suggest that it's nearer 1300 years old), I am curious as to your source for the existence of a 'King Arthur Pendragon'. You're not swallowing Geoffrey of Monmouth's story are you?

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
Your hatred is against me, according to your earlier personal attacks, isn't much to care about.
Your hatred towards homsexuals, however, scares every non-JW person.

If you represent that cult, then the whole JW cult scares every sane person.
What also scares me is your energy to defend JW of having paedophile activities within the cult.
You hat ...[text shortened]... in short, a loose cannon.

I'm glad that we have an internet line between us as protection.
if you are going to start fights and call people out for supporting and publishing works by paedophiles, by assigning non existent values simply because they dont deem you trustworthy enough to be a recipent of it, then you can expect a fight on your hands. What you are measuring out to people shall be measured out to you. You got as good as you gave and now you are whimpering about it. Weak man, really weak, not to mention completely hypocritical.

Get some friends and stop trying to project your thoughts on to others, you are not them and they are not you. If you are unhappy with who you are, then you need to look deeply inside and mould the person you want to become. We try the best to be just like we are, but you want everybody to be like you, give it up.

i neither hate you nor think that deeply about it, you are entitled to your point of view and are free to express it, however, when it takes a slanderous and inflammatory tone, you get called out and start to cry. You remind me of a bully that once got beat up at school, he could dish it out, but dont ask him to take it. See to it in future.

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I just read the last few pages of this thread. I found it meaningless.

But I need to know something. Why is it that whenever someone, whether they are a "religious" person or not, expresses their disapproval of homosexuality, homosexuals label them as homophobes and bigots?

Especially in this forum since nobody really knows anything about each other anyway. Other than that we either believe there's a God or we don't, we know little else about each other. So why judge an individual as a homophobe, meaning there is something wrong with them because they say homosexuality is unnatural, meaning there is something wrong with the individual that practices that behavior?

In other words why accuse someone of being afraid of homosexuality because they believe it is wrong for whatever reason they believe?

It seems kinda stupid to me in the first place that one would be afraid of homosexuality. What's there to be afraid of?

Quite frankly, I think that when a person who claims they are a homosexual accuses someone who claims that homosexuality is unnatural of being afraid, what they are really saying is that they are afraid that what they are doing is unnatural.

Just thought I'd throw my two cents in since you all are so hung up on it.

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Originally posted by black beetle
According to miscellaneous exoteric traditions Karma (Sk. Karman, meaning literally: mission/ debt/ role and only under esoteric terms action/ energy, T. las) is the mechanism you understand regarding the Dalit case (positive/ negative actions produce positive/ negative results etc. etc.). Of course, if we see it this way, it is a universal archetype ad ...[text shortened]... time, nationality and culture, and of course it is adopted by the fundamentalist Hindus too
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What do we call the untouchables in christian society, "homeless"?

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Originally posted by josephw
I just read the last few pages of this thread. I found it meaningless.

But I need to know something. Why is it that whenever someone, whether they are a "religious" person or not, expresses their disapproval of homosexuality, homosexuals label them as homophobes and bigots?

Especially in this forum since nobody really knows anything about each other an ...[text shortened]... s unnatural.

Just thought I'd throw my two cents in since you all are so hung up on it.
Have you been drinking?

That's two posts of yours i've read now that make absolutely no sense whatsoever.

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Originally posted by josephw
I just read the last few pages of this thread. I found it meaningless.

But I need to know something. Why is it that whenever someone, whether they are a "religious" person or not, expresses their disapproval of homosexuality, homosexuals label them as homophobes and bigots?

Especially in this forum since nobody really knows anything about each other an s unnatural.

Just thought I'd throw my two cents in since you all are so hung up on it.
their whole argument rests upon, non existent scientific evidence. they state that homosexuals cannot help being homosexual, therefore, it is wrong to criticise them for being so. what they have in fact done, is very subtly used a non existent piece of data and used it to support a moral stance. When you try to question it morally, they make an objection and site the non existent scientific evidence, preponderance of certain hormones, the gay gene shall be found etc etc this fact escapes their notice, that a predisposition is not the same as a causation. it is the ultimate materialistic folly to suggest that something as complex as human sexuality can be reduced to something purely biological, its weak man, really weak.

if you question it, you are a homophobic, if you assert your free will and state that these questionable theories are sketchy and unproven and have many anomalies, you are a bigot, not only that, you may even lose your job or be prosecuted for it! That is how thoroughly devoid of reasoning this society is.

Plus, the fact is that Germany lost, which makes it even worse!

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
their whole argument rests upon, non existent scientific evidence. they state that homosexuals cannot help being homosexual, therefore, it is wrong to criticise them for being so. what they have in fact done, is very subtly used a non existent piece of data and used it to support a moral stance. When you try to question it morally, they make an ob ...[text shortened]... e your job or be prosecuted for it! That is how thoroughly devoid of reasoning this society is.
if you question it, you are a homophobic

Rubbish, your called homophobic when you start making gay slurs, ie calling someone a 'faggot' in a public forum.

If i started calling your missus a 'paki', then you could rightly call me a racist.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
[b]if you question it, you are a homophobic

Rubbish, your called homophobic when you start making gay slurs, ie calling someone a 'faggot' in a public forum.

If i started calling your missus a 'paki', then you could rightly call me a racist.[/b]
no i would not call you a racist, shes from Pakistan, what else would you call her? its a very short difference from Pakistani to Paki, no biggie. i am from Scotland, i get called a jock, is that racist? i dont think so, it makes no difference to me.

i once got spat on by a minibus full of Geordies when i was riding past in my bike on Gt western road, the whole bus opening their windows and spitting on me. you little jock this and you little jock that they shouted. did i think, wow they are being incredibly racist in calling me a jock and spitting on me, no i just thought they were idiots.

as for thinkofone, i lost count of how many times i asked him to remain on topic. indeed he even followed me from one thread to another making the same assertions. He was spoiling for a fight, and while i admit that it was a calculated insult and was reprehensible, he should not pick fights with people and expect to remain unscathed.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no i would not call you a racist, shes from Pakistan, what else would you call her? its a very short difference from Pakistani to Paki, no biggie. i am from Scotland, i get called a jock, is that racist? i dont think so, it makes no difference to me.
what else would you call her?

A Pakistani?! You come to Manchester and walk through Rusholme using that terminology, i bet you wouldn't make it to the other end alive.

It wasn't that long ago that Freaky called cornershops 'paki shops' (some US slang of non racist origin), and you were ready to jump all over him for his alleged racist comments. So don't give me this 'it's all water off a ducks back' nonsense.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
Have you been drinking?

That's two posts of yours i've read now that make absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Of course it makes no sense, you've been drinking. 😵

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
[b]what else would you call her?

A Pakistani?! You come to Manchester and walk through Rusholme using that terminology, i bet you wouldn't make it to the other end alive.

It wasn't that long ago that Freaky called cornershops 'paki shops' (some US slang of non racist origin), and you were ready to jump all over him for his alleged racist comments. So don't give me this 'it's all water off a ducks back' nonsense.[/b]
Lol, so some people got issues. 🙂 actually dear Noobster i am going to have a self imposed forum ban again, i really dont want to duel with you any-more, can we try to get along for the short while that i am allowed to be active?

ok ok i admit it, if someone called my wife a Paki in the street id find him and toe his balls.

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