Originally posted by KellyJayFor someone to kill in the prince of peace's name is losing site to his obvious purpose of such an awful decision. Killing in the name of peace is obviously not peace.
People use whatever they can to get what they want, the justify themselves with
whatever makes them feel better or casts themselves into the best light as they do
the things they want. So killing in the in name of the Prince of Peace is something
people do, just as pedophiles run to organizations that have children in them
people who want power sometime ...[text shortened]... hristianity is being with God through Jesus Christ,
everything else we make up as we go.
Kelly
Ignorance and fear is such that type of conditioning, as would be the case for one to crazily desire controlling others, or to gain some type of power, being one "loses" power because of such a wrong desire.
The only power ANYONE could actually have would be in Christ that STRENGTHENETH they that are HIS and recognize such.
When I was in 9th grd. and in the gym one day at school, there were 2 football players arm wrestling, with biceps as if one were not able to comb ones hair.
And after they had finished, I (barely any bicep back then) asked if they care for a go, and arm wrestled the 1st as the other guy watched us. After I had won him, the other guy said "It's because we just did one.". So I did him next with the same outcome.
Now, if these guys had any inclination as to what to expect from me, it's possible they could have given me more a battle, and I would have given in, yet they were in amazement, not expecting I would have what I shared with them.
It was my knowing where the strength was, and knowing also I can. And I did not do to show them up, rather have them view strength differently.
Originally posted by tacoandlettuceMy point is that, "In the name of..." does not mean whose ever name an act was
For someone to kill in the prince of peace's name is losing site to his obvious purpose of such an awful decision. Killing in the name of peace is obviously not peace.
Ignorance and fear is such that type of conditioning, as would be the case for one to crazily desire controlling others, or to gain some type of power, being one "loses" power becaus ...[text shortened]... also I can. And I did not do to show them up, rather have them view strength differently.
done under actually reflects the name, it is a direct reflection upon the person
doing the act! If Christ says what you have done with Him is the same as Him
doing it, then yes we can say those actions are a reflection of Jesus Christ. The
difference is the reality of relationship with Jesus Christ or not, those not walking
with God acting in God's name will find themselves on the short end.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayAmen, however
My point is that, "In the name of..." does not mean whose ever name an act was
done under actually reflects the name, it is a direct reflection upon the person
doing the act! If Christ says what you have done with Him is the same as Him
doing it, then yes we can say those actions are a reflection of Jesus Christ. The
difference is the reality of relatio ...[text shortened]... hose not walking
with God acting in God's name will find themselves on the short end.
Kelly
by the obedience OF ONE shall "all" be forgiven, which is Elias truly coming and restoring ALL THINGS! And this will occur and by he that was called, to be increased, therefore increasing all. This is magnifying the law and making it honorable, this is rectifying much and building back to the true stature of man that I am.
And no, I am not whatsoever puffing myself up, for I have been a fool as God said HE would make the wise foolish!
I am "the first" to speak of my foolishness, and have suffered enormously because of it, however spoken in Isaiah42 that I will magnify the law, the blind servant the Lord is well pleased of due to his righteousness.
Originally posted by duecerSo you vote for a political party that may go against scriptual teaching but you can't say who you voted for? That sounds a little hypocritical to me. So your suggesting to just promote something by action but not by word?
The trouble with associating your politics with a political party is that perhaps that party may support something in direct conflict with scriptural teaching
Secondly, I call myself a Christian but would not be caught dead in Obama's former church where they rail against white America with racist overtones. So since they call themselves Christians does this mean I should not promote Christiantiy?
Originally posted by duecerI owe my allegiance to one Christ Jesus as well. In fact, any allegiance to any political party would be idolotrous. I am not suggesting allegiance. In fact, as a conservative I would NEVER support a progressive Republican.
By all means vote your consience, but remember that the disciples of Christ thought he was going to be a new king, a political leader that would kick the Romans out of Jerusalem. That, however, was not part of God's plan. Jesus is our spiritual king, to him and only him do I owe allegiance.
edit: and you are wrong about Paul, it had nothing to do with spiritual warfare and everything to do with the politics of Rome, read some history books.[/b]
As for the world of politics, don't you think there are some spiritual dealings there? Just look at the OT where God raised nations against Israel to judge her. Are there no politics going on there?
Originally posted by whodey1. So you vote for a political party that may go against scriptual teaching but you can't say who you voted for? That sounds a little hypocritical to me. So your suggesting to just promote something by action but not by word?
So you vote for a political party that may go against scriptual teaching but you can't say who you voted for? That sounds a little hypocritical to me. So your suggesting to just promote something by action but not by word?
Secondly, I call myself a Christian but would not be caught dead in Obama's former church where they rail against white America with ...[text shortened]... s. So since they call themselves Christians does this mean I should not promote Christiantiy?
what? I didn't say that. perhaps you are having comprehension problems, trying reading my post again
2. Secondly, I call myself a Christian but would not be caught dead in Obama's former church where they rail against white America with racist overtones. So since they call themselves Christians does this mean I should not promote Christiantiy?
non-sequitor, we're not talking about Obama's church. though if you like we can have a long discourse on the sytematic oppression of African Americans in this country. This same oppression was carried out by supposed Christians like yourself. Not all Christians are perfect, but we are forgiven.
Originally posted by whodey1. In fact, as a conservative I would NEVER support a progressive Republican.
I owe my allegiance to one Christ Jesus as well. In fact, any allegiance to any political party would be idolotrous. I am not suggesting allegiance. In fact, as a conservative I would NEVER support a progressive Republican.
As for the world of politics, don't you think there are some spiritual dealings there? Just look at the OT where God raised nations against Israel to judge her. Are there no politics going on there?
you would never support a progressive republican? I'm not sure such a creature exists. Conservative and liberal are secular and worldy terms. You can hide behind words all you like, but public support of candidates and politics is directly in conflict with scripture (as has been shown in previous posts).
2. As for the world of politics, don't you think there are some spiritual dealings there?
No, politics are an invention of man. They deal only with the secular, and should be publically ignored by Christians.
3. Just look at the OT where God raised nations against Israel to judge her. Are there no politics going on there?
Of course not. It wasn't about fiscal tax policy or the creation of public education etc...it was about bringing the children of Israel to repentance. To think otherwise is to really not understand the context, I mean really not understand....