Huge anti-gay marriage protest march in Paris

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Yes you should not be bullied. Have i ever resorted to bullying you? Have you and i not had an interchange of encouragement? I certainly felt encouraged by your private texts when i was serving my self imposed ban.

No i don't - I like your posts - eloquent and well intended.

just your point of view is a little austere and not for all.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
sigh we have seen in the last two posts the rather banal techniques of those, who devoid of reason, resort to the usual armchair psychoanalysis (you are homophobic) assigning to their adversary rather curious mental ailments (stellspalfie) and you are a hater (zippy)

Is this really the best we have come to appreciate, that those who oppose gay pra ...[text shortened]... are homophobic' or 'you are a hater', simply because someone opposes your own moral stance.

just joining the dots robbie.................and the dots are drawing a picture of a sexually confused, irrational scotsman.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
just joining the dots robbie.................and the dots are drawing a picture of a sexually confused, irrational scotsman.

On the contrary I have provided a rationale for everything I have stated, will you admit that your support for gay rights is a reflection of your desire to establish a morality.

Originally posted by e4chris
No i don't - I like your posts - eloquent and well intended.

just your point of view is a little austere and not for all.

Awesome , we're good then.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
just joining the dots robbie.................and the dots are drawing a picture of a sexually confused, irrational scotsman.

I want you to confess! Fess up, you and proper noob, fess up that its a fight against a morality that you are engaged in.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
On the contrary I have provided a rationale for everything I have stated, will you admit that your support for gay rights is a reflection of your desire to establish a morality.

more proof of your irrationality, you have provided zero evidence and yet you are convinced that you have. irrational and delusional.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I want you to confess! Fess up, you and proper noob, fess up that its a fight against a morality that you are engaged in.

i dont feel like you are capable of discussing things in an honest, intelligent, sensible way. so its pointless trying to engage with you on that level. any person that puts forward a paper that refutes its own findings and then attempts to stand by the paper as empirical evidence is too far down the rabbit hole to hold a rational debate.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
i dont feel like you are capable of discussing things in an honest, intelligent, sensible way. so its pointless trying to engage with you on that level. any person that puts forward a paper that refutes its own findings and then attempts to stand by the paper as empirical evidence is too far down the rabbit hole to hold a rational debate.

blah blah blah, more meaningless drivel, fess up, i want to hear you say it, you are fighting a war in which you wish to make homosexuality more acceptable, MORALLY, aren't you.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
more proof of your irrationality, you have provided zero evidence and yet you are convinced that you have. irrational and delusional.

I supplied ten reasons, I cannot recall you ever making reference to one of them, you fail fatboy, now fess up.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
blah blah blah, more meaningless drivel, fess up, i want to hear you say it, you are fighting a war in which you wish to make homosexuality more acceptable, MORALLY, aren't you.

more evidence you are incapable of rational debate. a rational person would respond 'yes you were correct about the paper i posted, it should be disregarded as evidence' and then attempt to find other evidence to substantiate your claim.........but noooooo, an irrational person incapable of an honest debate, will ignore any mistakes he has made and respond to childish 'blah,blah,blahs' and try to change the subject onto a debate about morality.

ill just stick to asking you if you are gay, its as close to your level of debating as i can get.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
more evidence you are incapable of rational debate. a rational person would respond 'yes you were correct about the paper i posted, it should be disregarded as evidence' and then attempt to find other evidence to substantiate your claim.........but noooooo, an irrational person incapable of an honest debate, will ignore any mistakes he has made and resp ust stick to asking you if you are gay, its as close to your level of debating as i can get.

ten reasons, not one, not two, but ten, you failed to make reference to a single one and claim hypocritically to tell others whether they are capable of rational thought or not, feel yer bum and be brought back to reality. Why wont you admit that your support for gay issues is an attempt to support a particular morality? We all know its true, why don't you simply admit it? I have no problem with it, my aversion is based on Biblical morality, not some pseudo psychoanalytical diagnosis which amounts to naught but quackery.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I supplied ten reasons, I cannot recall you ever making reference to one of them, you fail fatboy, now fess up.

more evidence of your irrational behavior (or possibly stupidity) ive pointed out to you several times that the 10 points you made are tackling the issue of gay marriage. i personally have not questioned your views on gay marriage. ive been asking you specifically about the effects of gay parents on children.

now if you were rational you would have noticed this, especially as ive already clarified this several times....yet you still hang onto it as if it is making a relevant point. this is irrational or stupid, which ever you prefer.

this is your cue to spit your dummy about personal insults...or maybe you could stick the word empirical in every sentence regardless if its valid, just so it makes your content have the veneer of pseudo-intelligence.


so are you irrational or stupid? im guessing you are going to say neither. but at the same time not acknowledge your obvious errors.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
more evidence of your irrational behavior (or possibly stupidity) ive pointed out to you several times that the 10 points you made are tackling the issue of gay marriage. i personally have not questioned your views on gay marriage. ive been asking you specifically about the effects of gay parents on children.

now if you were rational you would have ...[text shortened]... guessing you are going to say neither. but at the same time not acknowledge your obvious errors.

contained in those reasons was, i repeat was a reference to adoption and issues which were raised by gay adoption, not only that, i produced a report which also highlighted certain analytical data based on a study which highlighted certain reasons why it might be detrimental to a child, you responded by attacking the motives of the study in typical fashion.

Seeing that you were incapable, unwilling or simply unable to refute any of these findings i was left to conclude that your support of gay issues is a support for a particular morality, which, as yet, you have failed to admit, but we both know it to be true. Why you should have such an aversion to admitting the fact is known only to you, suffice to say, until you do so, i will hold the position that it is the case and is primarily the reason why you support gay issues.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
it appeared to me that you had failed to understand or rather ignore the details of my text which were that the support for so called gay rights is nothing more than support for a morality.

I believe that people shouldn't be discriminated on the basis of their sexuality. Call it what you like, it makes no difference to me, but that is my stand.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
contained in those reasons was, i repeat was a reference to adoption and issues which were raised by gay adoption, not only that, i produced a report which also highlighted certain analytical data based on a study which highlighted certain reasons why it might be detrimental to a child, you responded by attacking the motives of the study in typical f ...[text shortened]... ll hold the position that it is the case and is primarily the reason why you support gay issues.

"contained in those reasons was, i repeat was a reference to adoption and issues which were raised by gay adoption"

go back and read your own post. the word adoption is not mentioned once, not once!!! the actual effects of gay parents on a child is not mentioned once!!!! not once!!!!! irrational or stupid, it could be either, but this is why debating with you is pointless.

"not only that, i produced a report which also highlighted certain analytical data based on a study which highlighted certain reasons why it might be detrimental to a child,"

again!!!! you are referencing a report that refutes its own finding!!!!!! you dont even seem to realize that the report wasnt even about gay adoption!!!! irrational or stupidity?


"you responded by attacking the motives of the study in typical fashion. "

the papers own author refuted the paper!!!!!! the authors own university refuted the papers findings!!!!!!! one of the main collaborators whos data was involved has refuted the papers findings yet you still insist it is evidence!!!! irrational or stupidity.

ive provided a peace of research that is much more thorough, involves the work of lots of experts in the field and supports gay parenting........yet you insist that ive provided no evidence!!!!!! irrational or stupidity...you choose robbie.

ive pointed this out several times now, its getting embarrassing for you.


i would be happy to discuss your question of morality....but i see no point. if you cannot grasp the basic points raised here then there is nothing stopping you from doing it again.

my problem is mainly that i dont know if its just stubbornness on your behalf (which i can understand, people generally dont like to admit they have made mistakes) or if you actually believe what you say, if you actually believe your evidence is good, then you are not 'okay upstairs' and i shouldnt be taking the 'p' out of you or encouraging you.