Originally posted by robbie carrobieyep! fail. Andrew lloyd webber wrote it better!
LOL, why would i want to do that, they are right wing nutters, i am a socialist by nature. They have failed the revolution. The French revolution is why i love pawns, the Great Philador made this clear, pawns (the peasants) are the soul of chess, not the hierarchy of the capitalist bourgeoisie pieces!
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Originally posted by robbie carrobie"Beliefs that gay and lesbian adults are not fit parents likewise have no empirical
not if it is founded on evidence its not. Indeed, to term someone homophobic without evidence is irrational.
The traditional family arrangement was instituted by God when he created the first woman and gave her, as a companion and a compliment of Adam. It seems evident that males have attributes and females have attributes which when combined as ...[text shortened]... and his mother Lois, but they of course were not homosexuals, simply a mother and a grandmother.
foundation (Cramer, 1986; Falk, 1989; Gibbs, 1988; Patterson, 1996). Lesbian and
heterosexual women have not been found to differ markedly either in their overall mental
health or in their approaches to child rearing (Kweskin & Cook, 1982; Lyons, 1983;
Miller, Jacobsen, & Bigner, 1981; Mucklow & Phelan, 1979; Pagelow, 1980; Rand,
Graham, & Rawlings, 1982; Thompson, McCandless, & Strickland, 1971), nor have
lesbians' romantic and sexual relationships with other women been found to detract from
their ability to care for their children (Pagelow, 1980). Recent evidence suggests that
lesbian couples who are parenting together tend to divide household and family labor
relatively evenly (Hand, 1991; Patterson, 1995a) and to report
satisfaction with their couple relationships (Koepke, Hare, & Moran, 1992; Patterson,
1995a). Research on gay fathers has similarly found no reason to believe them unfit as
parents (Barret & Robinson, 1990; Bigner and Bozett, 1990; Bozett, 1980, 1989). "
c.j.patterson - university of virginia
a study of homosexual/lesbian parenting.
the conclusion -
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In summary, there is no evidence to suggest that lesbians and gay men are unfit to be
parents or that psychosocial development among children of gay men or lesbians is
compromised in any respect relative to that among offspring of heterosexual parents. Not
a single study has found children of gay or lesbian parents to be disadvantaged in any
significant respect relative to children of heterosexual parents. Indeed, the evidence to
date suggests that home environments provided by gay and lesbian parents are as likely
as those provided by heterosexual parents to support and enable children's psychosocial
growth. "
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Originally posted by stellspalfieIn a historic study of children raised by homosexual parents, sociologist Mark Regnerus of the University of Texas at Austin has overturned the conventional academic wisdom that such children suffer no disadvantages when compared to children raised by their married mother and father. Just published in the journal Social Science Research,[1] the most careful, rigorous, and methodologically sound study ever conducted on this issue found numerous and significant differences between these groups--with the outcomes for children of homosexuals rated "suboptimal" (Regnerus' word) in almost every category.
"Beliefs that gay and lesbian adults are not fit parents likewise have no empirical
foundation (Cramer, 1986; Falk, 1989; Gibbs, 1988; Patterson, 1996). Lesbian and
heterosexual women have not been found to differ markedly either in their overall mental
health or in their approaches to child rearing (Kweskin & Cook, 1982; Lyons, 1983;
Miller, Ja provided by heterosexual parents to support and enable children's psychosocial
growth. "
http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-on-homosexual-parents-tops-all-previous-research
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Originally posted by robbie carrobiehttp://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/authors-of-disreputable-anti-gay-rights-studies-triggered-growing-numbers-of-critics-rapidly-widening-scandal/politics/2012/06/25/42133
In a historic study of children raised by homosexual parents, sociologist Mark Regnerus of the University of Texas at Austin has overturned the conventional academic wisdom that such children suffer no disadvantages when compared to children raised by their married mother and father. Just published in the journal Social Science Research,[1] the most ...[text shortened]... .
http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-on-homosexual-parents-tops-all-previous-research
do your homework robbie. there are lots of other pages, especially about mark regnerus and his unethical methods of collecting data. his paper was politically funded to provide religious right wing american politicians something they could use to gay-bash.
mark sprigg who's page you linked to is a right-wing religious minister who has a history of making vile comments, accusing homosexuals of being pedophiles and so on. not exactly the most un-biased person in the world.
i suspect that this will mean nothing to you, as long as it supports your own agenda.
Originally posted by stellspalfieIt is just a coincidence that many pedophiles are also homsexuals. Sorry about that.
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/authors-of-disreputable-anti-gay-rights-studies-triggered-growing-numbers-of-critics-rapidly-widening-scandal/politics/2012/06/25/42133
do your homework robbie. there are lots of other pages, especially about mark regnerus and his unethical methods of collecting data. his paper was politically funded to provide ...[text shortened]... world.
i suspect that this will mean nothing to you, as long as it supports your own agenda.
The Instructor
Originally posted by stellspalfiead homimem, you need to dispute the value of the data, not the person who complied it.
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/authors-of-disreputable-anti-gay-rights-studies-triggered-growing-numbers-of-critics-rapidly-widening-scandal/politics/2012/06/25/42133
do your homework robbie. there are lots of other pages, especially about mark regnerus and his unethical methods of collecting data. his paper was politically funded to provide ...[text shortened]... world.
i suspect that this will mean nothing to you, as long as it supports your own agenda.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieRe your study; I'm not sure and to be honest I think there are a few gay male couples who would admit to not being ideal parents, but some do.
In a historic study of children raised by homosexual parents, sociologist Mark Regnerus of the University of Texas at Austin has overturned the conventional academic wisdom that such children suffer no disadvantages when compared to children raised by their married mother and father. Just published in the journal Social Science Research,[1] the most .
http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-on-homosexual-parents-tops-all-previous-research
REGARDING THE mARCH; 🙁 .....
Well, it looks like the lady in the picture is carrying a cheese banner, she probably has bo too...
I was going to post Susan Boyle 'I Dreamed a Dream' but that would be way to nice, they are not good enough for her and its still an insult to her to say that. An opinion I respect but robby may I ask would you march on such a thing? I hope not. I doubt you would.
If i was king of france, oh they don't have one do they - I would command my royal alchemists to create a black hole for the protestors so all who arrived vanished forever. Impoosible maybe, but it would be rather convenient.
I think france and the UK both have 25% idiots (including rich ones) but in the UK they are stupid whilst in france they verg on fascist and its pig ugly. Theres another 25% or more i have a lot of respect for though.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieread the link, the data is disputed. i wasnt aware i needed to spell it out for you.
ad homimem, you need to dispute the value of the data, not the person who complied it.
would you rather see a kid go through the care system from age 2-16 rather than being adopted by a gay couple?
what is different between a single dad and a single gay dad?
Originally posted by stellspalfieoh i read the link but i find no evidence that the data is disputed, all that you have attempted to do is undermine the credentials of the study by trying to draw attention to some kind of biased motives for producing it.
read the link, the data is disputed. i wasnt aware i needed to spell it out for you.
would you rather see a kid go through the care system from age 2-16 rather than being adopted by a gay couple?
what is different between a single dad and a single gay dad?
The argument is not about gay couples verses the care system, its about married and stable heterosexual parents v gay parents.
Originally posted by e4chrisno i would never march in a political march, heck, i dont vote and never have.
Re your study; I'm not sure and to be honest I think there are a few gay male couples who would admit to not being ideal parents, but some do.
REGARDING THE mARCH; 🙁 .....
Well, it looks like the lady in the picture is carrying a cheese banner, she probably has bo too...
I was going to post Susan Boyle 'I Dreamed a Dream' but that would be way to ...[text shortened]... on fascist and its pig ugly. Theres another 25% or more i have a lot of respect for though.