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Originally posted by robbie carrobieNature's requirements are simple. Find food to eat, and protect yourself from the elements and other creatures who would harm you. There is nothing about whom you can or cannot boink.
First of all, sexual behavior and race are essentially different realities. A man and a woman wanting to marry may be different in their characteristics: one may be black, the other white; one rich, the other poor; or one tall, the other short. None of these differences are insurmountable obstacles to marriage. The two individuals are still man and w ...[text shortened]... y-incorrect/homosexuality/10-reasons-why-homosexual-marriage-is-harmful-and-must-be-opposed.html
Marriage is just a commitment to a partner. There are no insurmountable biological impossibilities with a same-gender partner (this argument is rubbish anyway because an old straight couple is allowed to get married even if they're too old to screw). In fact, straight people copulate in many of the same ways that gay people do. (I know you don't like to hear that, but it's true).
I don't care if homosexual behavior is changeable or not. There is still an excellent analogy with racial discrimination; society is trying to ostracize an out-group for the crime of being different.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou really think my foster son would be better with one of his biological parents?
no don't be silly, you seem to have missed out the defining criteria, two biological parents are the standard. In the absence of two biological parents one is better, in the absence of one, a man and a women are better, in the absence of a man and a women, your gay couple come last for even though one may be biological you are depriving the child of ...[text shortened]... n be remedied at some point if the parents meets someone else, but never in a gay relationship.
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Originally posted by stellspalfiedon't negotiate with him
meaning what? there is no such thing as a single gay or rule 2 only applies if you are straight?
if a child is in the care system from aged 2 to 13 with nobody showing an interest in them and then a gay couple wish to adopt the child would that be acceptable to you? or would you rather the child stayed in care?
"what if the kid wouldn't be wanted by "normal" people" as if he would do gays a huge favor allowing them to adopt in that case. gays should be put in queue for adoptions with the straight couples, and single people wanting to adopt and regular criteria for adopting should apply. not place them in the "reject" queue, where they will get the unwanted child like it is the salvation army shirt for a dolar shop.
a gay couple is no less suited to raise a child than a straight couple. at no point do the sexual preferences of the parents are a factor in the education and providing for the child.
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Originally posted by Zahlanzidont worry im not negotiating. i have no issues at all with homosexual adoption. just interested to see how illogical robbies views go.
don't negotiate with him
"what if the kid wouldn't be wanted by "normal" people" as if he would do gays a huge favor allowing them to adopt in that case. gays should be put in queue for adoptions with the straight couples, and single people wanting to adopt and regular criteria for adopting should apply. not place them in the "reject" queue, where they w ...[text shortened]... al preferences of the parents are a factor in the education and providing for the child.
Originally posted by wolfgang59I would never be as insensitive to call into question your parenting wolfie, really, not for a second, i have admiration for anyone who can adopt a kid, but you are not gay and you have provided natures best, a loving home with a father and a mother in the absence of biological parents.
You really think my foster son would be better with one of his biological parents?
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Originally posted by Zahlanzino they shouldn't, there are zillions of reasons why they shouldn't, you have not proffered one good reason why they should, except because you say they should.
don't negotiate with him
"what if the kid wouldn't be wanted by "normal" people" as if he would do gays a huge favor allowing them to adopt in that case. gays should be put in queue for adoptions with the straight couples, and single people wanting to adopt and regular criteria for adopting should apply. not place them in the "reject" queue, where they w ...[text shortened]... al preferences of the parents are a factor in the education and providing for the child.
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Originally posted by SwissGambitno they dont copulate the same way as straight people do, thats a nonsense, physiology makes it impossible and yes there is, the physiology of the body makes it clear what is natural and what is not. Its a pants analogy, it fails every time. Society is doing nothing of the sort, its gays who are imposing their morality on society, not the other way around.
Nature's requirements are simple. Find food to eat, and protect yourself from the elements and other creatures who would harm you. There is nothing about whom you can or cannot boink.
Marriage is just a commitment to a partner. There are no insurmountable biological impossibilities with a same-gender partner (this argument is rubbish anyway because an scrimination; society is trying to ostracize an out-group for the crime of being different.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou don't think straight couples enjoy both anal and oral sex?
no they dont copulate the same way as straight people do, thats a nonsense, physiology makes it impossible and yes there is, the physiology of the body makes it clear what is natural and what is not. Its a pants analogy, it fails every time.
As for your insistence that's it's impossible, I can only say that you've not watched enough pr0n, nor had much experience.
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Originally posted by SwissGambitI dont care what they do, it does not make it natural, the human physiology is the defining criteria for what is natural, not what some depraved couples do. Porn is for window lickers!
You don't think straight couples enjoy both anal and oral sex?
As for your insistence that's it's impossible, I can only say that you've not watched enough pr0n, nor had much experience.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieif a child is in the care system from aged 2 to 13 with nobody showing an interest in them and then a gay couple wish to adopt the child would that be acceptable to you? or would you rather the child stayed in care?
I dont care what they do, it does not make it natural, the human physiology is the defining criteria for what is natural, not what some depraved couples do. Porn is for window lickers!
Originally posted by stellspalfiecare, better they have the opportunity to find a loving home with a mother and a father than an artificial one with no prospect of ever having a mother or a father figure.
if a child is in the care system from aged 2 to 13 with nobody showing an interest in them and then a gay couple wish to adopt the child would that be acceptable to you? or would you rather the child stayed in care?
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Originally posted by robbie carrobiethats pretty damn cold.
care, better they have the opportunity to find a loving home with a mother and a father than an artificial one with no prospect of ever having a mother or a father figure.
do you how bad things generally turn out for kids who are not adopted? 50% end up in prison, 45% become addicts and at 13-14 the chance of adoption is almost zero.
what to your mind are the negative outcomes for a child adopted by gay parents.
Originally posted by stellspalfiei have already outlined one point, only swiss gambit attempted to dismantle it.
thats pretty damn cold.
do you how bad things generally turn out for kids who are not adopted? 50% end up in prison, 45% become addicts and at 13-14 the chance of adoption is almost zero.
what to your mind are the negative outcomes for a child adopted by gay parents.