06 Oct '18 18:30>
If you never contemplate suicide then this thread is not for you. You may go. Goodbye.
"For the love of Christ constrains us because we have judged this, that One died for all, therefore all died." (2 Cor. 5:14)
"For the love of Christ constrains us because we have judged this, that One died for all, therefore all died." (2 Cor. 5:14)
"I ... am crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but it is Christ who lives in me ... " (See Galatians 2:20)
"What then shall we said" Should we continue in sin that grace may abound?
Absolutely not! We who have died to sin, how shall we still live in it?
Or are you ignorant that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death?
You have been buried therefore with Him through baptism into His death, in order that just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so also we might walk in newness of life." (Rom. 6:1-4)
@sonship saidWill those who do kill themselves be tortured forever by your version of Jesus?
Paul pioneered in learning to USE the death of Christ. And here not only for forgiveness through His redeeming blood.
But he learned to put to work the DEATH of Christ to liberate himself from many things which plagued him and made him unhappy and feeling hopeless.
Sure he did. Let's start here:
"I ... am crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I w ...[text shortened]... walk in newness of life." (Rom. 6:1-4)
Let's bring this down to practicality soon.
Lord Jesus, I am enraged with anger. Lord Jesus by faith stand upon the New Testament revelation - I am crucified with You Lord. I am buried with You Lord Jesus. You died and ALL DIED.
Lord Jesus, I don't believe my feelings. I believe Your word. I don't believe my humiliation. Lord Jesus I believe my co-death with You. Lord Jesus I take YOUR DEATH as my death and my dying with You. Thankyou Lord."
"For if you live according to the flesh you are about to die, but if you by the Spirit put to death the practices of the body you will live." (Rom. 8:13)
"So also you, reckon yourselves to be dead to sin, but living to God." (Rom. 6:10)
"And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up. That everyone who believes into Him may have eternal life."
" ... and all the churches will know that I am He who searches the inward parts and the hearts; and I will give to each one of you according to your works." (Rev. 2:23b)
@divegeester saidWhy are you ignoring my legitimate question sonship?
Will those who do kill themselves be tortured forever by your version of Jesus?
Why are you ignoring my legitimate question sonship?
"He who believes into the Son has eternal life; but he who disobeys the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides upon him." (John 3:36)
@ghost-of-a-duke saidyou'll judge. you always do...
I hope nobody reading this is in a suicidal frame of mind. If however, you are feeling depressed and want a less flippant approach to this serious issue that can affect anyone (theist or non-theist) then, by all means, send me a PM.
I won't judge. But I will listen and signpost you to appropriate Earthly support.
"I [ego] am crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but it is Christ who loves in me;
and the life which I now live in the flesh I live in faith, the [i[faith[/i] of the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.
I do not nullify the grace of God; ...." (Gal. 2:20,21a)