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Originally posted by stellspalfie
see, its interesting to explore hypothetical questions. i dont think it brought any shadow of doubt into your belief in god. it did give us a little glimpse into who you are beyond the usual following the party line, filibuster.
What do you want me to say?
If it were proven that there were no God, I would roll across the floor groveling and howling. I would curse out all my Christian brothers, and becomming a disciple of Dan Barker or Michael Shermer or some other eloquent X evangelical immediately. I would go weeping to all the "Been-There-Done-That" X Christians with formal apologies choking on my tears. I would toss Bible into the dumpster and wail over all the fun stuff I missed and go down to the disco and every night try to make up for "lost time" for the rest of my life.
Is that what you wanted me to "confess" ?
Sorry.
Look, if it happens, I'll give you an update.
If the stark cold reality hits me like a ton of bricks that Jesus Christ was just a fictional character some Galilean fishmen sat around on shore and made up, putting profound words into his make believe mouth, if the cold hard fact comes crashing down on my fondest dreams, then I'll come groveling before your atheistic feet begging you all to help me "make up" for lost time in whatever it is you're doing.
Is that what you were hoping to hear?
its a big gap between saying you don't have a perfect life and calling it vomit! i hope in your case it was the kinda vomit that comes from having too much fun.
Let me put it this honest way. Sometimes, just like the Israelites, I look back fondly on the "house of bondage" and "the iron furnace" and grumble a little like I miss slavery in Egypt. This is what the Israelites did at times in the books of Exodus and Numbers.
Sure, sometimes my nostalgic memory plays tricks on me and I THINK it was not too bad back there under Pharaoh. Then I awake. It is better by far to have been baptized into the death and resurrection of Christ.
Originally posted by sonshipwow, paranoia. did it seem like thats what i wanted you to say?see, its interesting to explore hypothetical questions. i dont think it brought any shadow of doubt into your belief in god. it did give us a little glimpse into who you are beyond the usual following the party line, filibuster.
What do you want me to say?
If it were proven that there were no God, I would roll across the floor gro ...[text shortened]... en I awake. It is better by far to have been baptized into the death and resurrection of Christ.
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Originally posted by stellspalfieIt was merely edifying to see you given a good tongue lashing!
ahh, one of my fellow british, heterosexual, white brethren....have you spotted any females, or ethnic minorities we can shout out, around here today? keep your eyes peeled there's a can of tennents super in it for you.
Originally posted by sonshipi think something got lost in translation. i was stating that i liked that you answered the question rather than stalling (eventually) and making excuses, as many of the theists do when confronted with a hypothetical. it may not have sounded like it, but it was kind of a compliment.
You sure fidgeted around however else I answered it.
it did give us a little glimpse into who you are beyond the usual following the party line, filibuster.
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Originally posted by stellspalfieYou're right. Sometimes I do get paranoid.
i think something got lost in translation. i was stating that i liked that you answered the question rather than stalling (eventually) and making excuses, as many of the theists do when confronted with a hypothetical. it may not have sounded like it, but it was kind of a compliment.
I TAKE EVERYTHING PERSONALLY DUDE !!
Originally posted by sonshipAmen.see, its interesting to explore hypothetical questions. i dont think it brought any shadow of doubt into your belief in god. it did give us a little glimpse into who you are beyond the usual following the party line, filibuster.
What do you want me to say?
If it were proven that there were no God, I would roll across the floor gro ...[text shortened]... en I awake. It is better by far to have been baptized into the death and resurrection of Christ.
Originally posted by stellspalfieNo, I'm not "worried" about it. It IS blasphemous because God DOES exist. To say he doesn't is to deny him, something Christians, hopefully, should not be eager to do.
ah, we arrive at the truth. you are worried that to imagine no god is possibly blasphemous. sonship and rj didnt seem to think so...
but if thats how you feel then fair enough.
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Originally posted by sonshipStill, I think you're on the right track about "What do you WANT me to say?" Throughout history, people have been shown to say anything to get other people to come around to their way of thinking. They think "hypotheticals" like this will open the door to "freedom of thought". Well, Christians reject such "freedom" because it just leads to buying your own shackles of a far different sort.
I think I did misunderstand Stella's actual somewhat complimentary post about my answer.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAnd of ALL the Christians who come to this forum, you're the ONLY one to whom I would say, "You, sir, are NO Christian."
you would be as well as joining a table tennis club as going to a church, in fact, it would be better for your health. Lifestyle choice, thats hilarious.
Originally posted by moonbusOh, please, this thread is ALL about whether God exists.
Trying to get back on track here... the thread is not about whether God exists or not. Therefore, vehement claims that God does exist (that the premiss is false) are off the mark. Of course, it is possible to come to believe that God does not exist, even if God does exist; the issue is: does that necessarily lead to loss of faith? I offer two e ...[text shortened]... n how to maintain Christian faith nonetheless. See, for example, his book "Taking Leave of God."
As usual, the atheists can't *prove* it, and so they do an "end run" around that inconvenience.
Sorry, not buying it.