Originally posted by robbie carrobie
i dont know? millions, billions of years?

And yet you are sure the YECs are wrong, somehow. I'd think you'd need to pin down your own answer a little more before lecturing them further.

Originally posted by whodey
But you obviously don't agree.

Are you a fabian socialist by any chance. Many are proponents for killing off those in society that no longer serve a purpose for the said society.

Are you in favor of that?

Of course not. How can you even think such a thought?

Originally posted by RJHinds
The USA used the atomic bomb for good. It quickly ended the war with Japan and saved far more lives than if it had not been used and the war had continued. I believe the people of Japan are better off for it. The USA later gave back the occupied island of Okinawa to Japan and we are now friends instead of enemies.

So the propaganda says.

If Japan would have invented the bomb and used it to USA, thus eding the war quick and 'painless', whould it have been equally good?

If Usama bin Ladin would have destroyd USA, would you accept that he proclaimed that "Now everything is good without the Satan among us, Now we can continue to islamicize the world." according to his twisted views.

Tell the people of Japan that the bomb was good. Tell the families and friends that "The bomb was and you shouldn't be sorry." Can you do that with a good christian soul?

No you cannot.

Originally posted by KingOnPoint
Fabian,
What is worse for us? To be ignorant about God's way of salvation so that we miss it? or to be ignorant about evolution which provides us nothing for eternity?

I don't understand the question.

The obvious answer would of course be simply: - To be ignorant.

Originally posted by KingOnPoint
Fabian,
You Typed
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Ignorance is dangerous!

The same can be said of creationism and relying of a literal bible.

(*) If you are sure that the last day will come and the paradise will turn up, then why not help the destiny a little so you can experience this day? Nuclear war is good for you!
or
(*) If you think cancer is a sign for ...[text shortened]... de, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
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I don't know how to answer your posting because I cannot identify any questions. So I just comment some things.

(1) "Nuclear war will not make Christ Jesus come again any earlier than God wants Jesus to come again."
Well, some christians says so, fundamentalists to the apocalyptic wing. These are however not normal christians, but nevertheless they do exist, and if they knew how, some wouldn't hesitate.

2) "As for a Christian having cancer and wanting to die with it, that makes sense. However, every Christian may not want to die, but to continue living on this earth."
When I was a small boy my sunday school teacher told us that it was good to dy because then you will meet Jesus. And he was so convincing that I actually wanted to die and planned how to commit suicide. However, suicide was a bad word noone would talk about so I didn't know how to.
Some christians want to die rather to fight cancer, because they will meet their creator earlier than if they would have been cured, that's their decision. It's when they decide for others I think it's wrong. When their beliefs, based of ignorance, change other's lives and deaths.

3) "As for global warming,..."
Has nothing to do with Adam and Eve, has nothing to do with gods intervention (nor lack thereof). It is solely the responsibilities of politicians. And greed. We cannot just sit back and wait for some god to save the situation. We all will suffer from the climate changes no matter what religion we belong to.

Originally posted by SwissGambit
And yet you are sure the YECs are wrong, somehow. I'd think you'd need to pin down your own answer a little more before lecturing them further.

I am not lecturing them its my understanding that they interpret the creative days to periods of a mere thousand years, as far as I can discern there is no scriptural basis for doing so.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
The less you know, the more dangerous you are.

According to http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/07/the-less-americans-know-about-ukraines-location-the-more-they-want-u-s-to-intervene/ the ones that doesn't know where Ukraine is are more positive to a military intervention.

Ignorance is dangerous!

The same can be said of creationism and relying of a literal bible.

Could not agree more! Ignorance is what I believe to be the main issue between those who believe in religion and those who do not. 'Jesus freaks' as some may call them often get a bad rep because of how literal they take everything and are ignorant to the times they live in. If you lose your job, go find one..don't just pray about it. You can pray and find one, but it is extremely ignorant to think you don't have to do a thing to get another job, and then complain about it. Even those who don't believe in anything but think they know everything....you sound and are ignorant to any discussion you get involved with.

I could go on and on, but ignorance is what is going to kill us all.

Originally posted by jjgerard
Could not agree more! Ignorance is what I believe to be the main issue between those who believe in religion and those who do not. 'Jesus freaks' as some may call them often get a bad rep because of how literal they take everything and are ignorant to the times they live in. If you lose your job, go find one..don't just pray about it. You can pray and find ...[text shortened]... n you get involved with.

I could go on and on, but ignorance is what is going to kill us all.

The Bible actually advocates working in harmony with ones prayers how you could fail to know this is rather interesting. It is after all the most widely translated, widely distributed and widely available book in the history of humanity and yet here you are seemingly oblivious to its contents. We should however acknowledge your expertise on ignorance, all things considered.

Originally posted by RJHinds
The USA used the atomic bomb for good. It quickly ended the war with Japan and saved far more lives than if it had not been used and the war had continued. I believe the people of Japan are better off for it. The USA later gave back the occupied island of Okinawa to Japan and we are now friends instead of enemies.

There was no good in using the bomb on Japan. The REAL reason we bombed Japan was to give an object lesson to the Soviet Union.

The war with Japan was in the endgame anyway, we would have won without the need for the bomb.

It was the Soviet Union we wanted to impress, not Japan.

All that did was to make an arms race with both sides having literally thousands, tens of thousands of A bombs and fusion bombs.

Yessir, a BIG help making peace.

And to make matters even worse, since the collapse of the Soviet Union, hundreds of atomic bombs are missing. At least the SU had the smarts to keep everything under tight security but when that era ended, those bombs started disappearing and that may come back to bite us in the ass if some terrorist gets hold of one. All they have to do is put it in a shipping container on a boat bound for New York City and it doesn't matter WHERE in NYC it goes off, millions will die, NYC will be no more and the US economy may never recover from such a hit.

Yessir, it was SUCH a good thing we did in Japan back in 1945.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
its actually quite simple Jonah Hinds, the creative days are of an unspecified duration.

Then why does it specify each of the 6 days by a number and say each of these days had a morning and an evening? That seems very specific to me.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
So the propaganda says.

If Japan would have invented the bomb and used it to USA, thus eding the war quick and 'painless', whould it have been equally good?

If Usama bin Ladin would have destroyd USA, would you accept that he proclaimed that "Now everything is good without the Satan among us, Now we can continue to islamicize the world." according t ...[text shortened]... b was and you shouldn't be sorry." Can you do that with a good christian soul?

No you cannot.

God's will prevails for good in the end. That is why the USA, not Japan or Germany, had the atomic bomb at the right moment in history.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
I don't understand the question.

The obvious answer would of course be simply: - To be ignorant.

The knowledge of God'e way of salvation has the potential benefit of eternal life for the believer. The knowledge or ignorance of evolution offers only death and destruction.

Originally posted by RJHinds
Then why does it specify each of the 6 days by a number and say each of these days had a morning and an evening? That seems very specific to me.

There you go, worshiping ancient Egyptian mythology again. And you think that is Christian. Amazing, what ignorance will do for you.....

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I am not lecturing them its my understanding that they interpret the creative days to periods of a mere thousand years, as far as I can discern there is no scriptural basis for doing so.

No, that understanding is wrong. YECs interpret the creative days as normal days of 24 hours or one rotation of the earth, basically like we have today. The difference is that we start our days at midnight instead of sunset. We also say morning and evening instead of evening and morning.

Originally posted by RJHinds
No, that understanding is wrong. YECs interpret the creative days as normal days of 24 hours or one rotation of the earth, basically like we have today. The difference is that we start our days at midnight instead of sunset. We also say morning and evening instead of evening and morning.

yes but that still does not explain why you think the creative days are of such a short duration, are you saying they were a literal 24 hr period?