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    09 Apr '14 13:07
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    I don't know! I honestly don't know what ution is. Is there a good-ution too?
    absolution?
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    09 Apr '14 15:58
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    a creationist is strictly someone who professes that God made the observable universe in a fairly short period of time, like for example, a young earth creationist or a seventh day adventist. I profess none of these beliefs and find them unreasonable and scientifically unsubstantiated and cannot therefore be described under the umbrella of a creationist although i do profess that God created the observable universe.
    How old do you think the universe is?

    How old do you think the earth is?
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    09 Apr '14 16:04
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    There are good priests, and there are bad priests.
    There are good scientists, and there are bad scientists.
    There are good politicians, and there are bad politicians.

    To bring forward the science that can give nuclear bombs is not evil. The evilness is to use it to innocent people.
    USA, a christian country, standing for freedom, is the only country ...[text shortened]... od stuff. But if our customers and clients are doing bad stuff with it - does that make me evil?
    The USA used the atomic bomb for good. It quickly ended the war with Japan and saved far more lives than if it had not been used and the war had continued. I believe the people of Japan are better off for it. The USA later gave back the occupied island of Okinawa to Japan and we are now friends instead of enemies.
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    09 Apr '14 17:32
    Fabian,
    You Typed
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    Ignorance is dangerous!

    The same can be said of creationism and relying of a literal bible.

    (*) If you are sure that the last day will come and the paradise will turn up, then why not help the destiny a little so you can experience this day? Nuclear war is good for you!
    or
    (*) If you think cancer is a sign for sin, then why not avoid the doctors so you meet your creator earlier? Cancer is good for you.
    or
    (*) If the bible say that you are in charge over nature and the almighty God holds his hand over you to protect you, then why should you care so much over the climate change? Warmer climat is good for you.

    Ignorance is dangerous! It is dangerous for us all!
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    1) Nuclear war will not make Christ Jesus come again any earlier than God wants Jesus to come again. Also, the bible doesn't seem to indicate that there will be any nuclear war to start with. Even so, nuclear bombing can take away people from hearing the Gospel of Christ.
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    Philippians 1: 21-24(King James Version)
    For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.

    But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not.

    For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:

    Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you.
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    2) As for a Christian having cancer and wanting to die with it, that makes sense. However, every Christian may not want to die, but to continue living on this earth.
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    John 11: 33, 34(King James Version)
    And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.

    And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go..
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    3) As for global warming, being a good steward in taking care of our environment is certainly useful for everyone. I don't think that God asks us to ruin our environment by lack of taking care of it. Furthermore, did Adam and Eve even have greenhouse gas emissions produced against their environment? How long was it before man possibly started ruining our environment with greenhouse gasses? I guess, the increase of gasses must have begun during the increase of man's knowledge years after the start of the industrial revolution.
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    Genesis 1: 1, 7, 8, 29, 31(King James Version)
    In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

    And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

    And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

    And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

    And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
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    09 Apr '14 17:46
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    How old do you think the universe is?

    How old do you think the earth is?
    i dont know? millions, billions of years?
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    09 Apr '14 17:49
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    i dont know? millions, billions of years?
    And how do you think the first human beings got here and roughly how long ago?
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    09 Apr '14 18:142 edits
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    And how do you think the first human beings got here and roughly how long ago?
    They teleported from the SS Enterprise, atheists were originally Vulcans and humans are all descended from Captain Kirk and Lieutenant Uhura. It happened in 1798.
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    09 Apr '14 18:18
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    i dont know? millions, billions of years?
    Where do you put these millions or billions of years in the Holy Bible or your NWT Bible?
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    09 Apr '14 18:202 edits
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    They teleported from the SS Enterprise, atheists were originally Vulcans and humans are all descended from Captain Kirk and Lieutenant Uhura. It happened in 1798.
    I guess you must get the millions or billions of years from the Captain's log, right? However, I though that just pertained to the future. I am not aware that they traveled back in time millions and billons of years.
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    09 Apr '14 18:48
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    "Mankind was set above the animal kingdom by God himself. We are not merely glorified animals."
    Yes, I agree, we like to think like that. It makes us proud. Being on top of everything.
    But you obviously don't agree.

    Are you a fabian socialist by any chance. Many are proponents for killing off those in society that no longer serve a purpose for the said society.

    Are you in favor of that?
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    09 Apr '14 19:11
    Fabian,
    What is worse for us? To be ignorant about God's way of salvation so that we miss it? or to be ignorant about evolution which provides us nothing for eternity?
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    09 Apr '14 19:37
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    They teleported from the SS Enterprise, atheists were originally Vulcans and humans are all descended from Captain Kirk and Lieutenant Uhura. It happened in 1798.
    See what happens when you tell a little fib? You have to cover it up with a lie, then cover that up with a bigger lie and pretty soon you are left with having to make such a big lie that you are forced to turn it into a joke to avoid looking insane.
    So when did you convert to your new religion? What do you call it?
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    09 Apr '14 20:321 edit
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    See what happens when you tell a little fib? You have to cover it up with a lie, then cover that up with a bigger lie and pretty soon you are left with having to make such a big lie that you are forced to turn it into a joke to avoid looking insane.
    So when did you convert to your new religion? What do you call it?
    I have already explained why i am not a creationist in the othodox sense you need not believe it or accept, if it suits you to resort to your now obligatory algorithm of calling everyone a liar who disagrees with you, go ahead, someone may care.

    I call it robbism and I have always been an adherent.
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    09 Apr '14 20:35
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Where do you put these millions or billions of years in the Holy Bible or your NWT Bible?
    its actually quite simple Jonah Hinds, the creative days are of an unspecified duration.
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    09 Apr '14 21:48
    Originally posted by whodey
    But you obviously don't agree.

    Are you a fabian socialist by any chance. Many are proponents for killing off those in society that no longer serve a purpose for the said society.

    Are you in favor of that?
    Excuse me? You obviously have them confused with the rich conservatives/fascists.
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