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    What advice can the panel give please?
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    01 Aug '09 16:45
    Originally posted by divegeester
    What advice can the panel give please?
    good luck in hell, lol, jus' kidding.

    why are you giving up anyway?
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    01 Aug '09 17:24
    Originally posted by divegeester
    I'm thinking of giving up being religious. What advice can the panel give please?
    Don't do it because of pressure from your peers and acquaintances. Weigh the contents of your heart and your intellect and take your time. If your former religiiosity was making you live your life well in certain ways, preserve and continue those things. Never let your curiosity go off the boil. Always be skeptical of strangers giving you advice like mine.
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    01 Aug '09 17:36
    Originally posted by divegeester
    What advice can the panel give please?
    Start reading some atheistic and/or humanist books.
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    01 Aug '09 17:45
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Start reading some atheistic and/or humanist books.
    so you're saying he should make his opinions based on what other people say, instead of thinking for himself?
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    01 Aug '09 17:54
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    so you're saying he should make his opinions based on what other people say, instead of thinking for himself?
    Yeah, books are real dangerous things, right?
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    01 Aug '09 17:57
    Originally posted by FMF
    Yeah, books are real dangerous things, right?
    are you against independent thinking as well?

    what is your atheist book of choice?
    its much better to listen to a-holes like dawkins instead of thinking for yourself, right?
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    01 Aug '09 17:58
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    so you're saying he should make his opinions based on what other people say, instead of thinking for himself?
    How does reading a book prevent him from thinking for himself?
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    01 Aug '09 17:59
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    are you against independent thinking as well?

    what is your atheist book of choice?
    its much better to listen to a-holes like dawkins instead of thinking for yourself, right?
    Have you read anything by Dawkins?
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    01 Aug '09 18:02
    Originally posted by rwingett
    How does reading a book prevent him from thinking for himself?
    it gives him a biased point of view on religion, as well as numerous strawman arguments from which to choose.
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    01 Aug '09 18:03
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Have you read anything by Dawkins?
    yes.

    have you?
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    01 Aug '09 18:36
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    yes.

    have you?
    Yes.
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    01 Aug '09 19:44
    Originally posted by rwingett
    Yes.
    Don't let them bother you, you don't have to read it if you don't want to, they're right, look into your heart and see why you're doing this, think about all the happy times you had while practicing your religion, try to relive it go back to it like you just joined it, start over it's not too late, may the Lord help us all.
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    01 Aug '09 19:53
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    it gives him a biased point of view on religion, as well as numerous strawman arguments from which to choose.
    I have read a lot of religious material - probably far more than atheistic material. I have read far more fiction than either of the above.
    Although I am sure that my reading gives me a biased point of view, I think it is a better biased point of view than the biased point of view I would have if I remained virtually ignorant by refusing to pick up a book.
    Of course books are not the only source of information, but the same principle applies to other sources.
    Certainly I consider some books and some other sources of information not worth my time, but I would never refuse to read one for fear of getting a biased point of view.
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    01 Aug '09 19:55
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    I have read a lot of religious material - probably far more than atheistic material. I have read far more fiction than either of the above.
    Although I am sure that my reading gives me a biased point of view, I think it is a better biased point of view than the biased point of view I would have if I remained virtually ignorant by refusing to pick up a boo ...[text shortened]... worth my time, but I would never refuse to read one for fear of getting a biased point of view.
    I think one of the best things you could read would be; "The case for Christ", reading right now, A GREAT BOOK!!!
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