In a different thread, a few people have decided to designate August as a hate-free, disrespect-free, and rude-free month for the spirituality forum. You can see more here:
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=164799&page=1#post_3431470
In preparation for this, anyone willing to state (here or on this thread) that they will, no matter what, be nothing less than civil and courteous for the entire month of August, I will personally say something genuine nice (no sarcasm) about you and compliment you.
Keep in mind that I may have to look up past posts for some of you, since I may not be that familiar with some of your personalities here; but I will do it, no matter how much we may have clashed in the past.
14 Jul 15
Originally posted by vivifyThank you for your kind words....I acknowledge I do from time to time go off as well, but
Kelly Jay, since you started that thread, I'll begin with you.
From what I've seen, you have a level head about you, and I've never once seen you be anything less than dignified. Kudos to you, sir.
on my word August will not see that from me in any post at any time.
14 Jul 15
Originally posted by vivifyKudos for picking this up and running with it too, well done!
In a different thread, a few people have decided to designate August as a hate-free, disrespect-free, and rude-free month for the spirituality forum. You can see more here:
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=164799&page=1#post_3431470
In preparation for this, anyone willing to state (here or on this thread) that they will, no matte ...[text shortened]... f your personalities here; but I will do it, no matter how much we may have clashed in the past.
14 Jul 15
Originally posted by vivifyUnlike KellyJay, I do not have a level head and will make no such promise, because I am a terrible sinner in need of forgiveness and grace from God.
In a different thread, a few people have decided to designate August as a hate-free, disrespect-free, and rude-free month for the spirituality forum. You can see more here:
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=164799&page=1#post_3431470
In preparation for this, anyone willing to state (here or on this thread) that they will, no matte ...[text shortened]... f your personalities here; but I will do it, no matter how much we may have clashed in the past.
I doubt if i can keep such a promise, if one of those atheists or whoever rubs me the wrong way. But I wish you folks good luck with your experiment.
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14 Jul 15
Originally posted by KellyJayWill this periodic magnanimity extend to those posters you strategically ignore, or just those you like to engage with regularly?
Thank you for your kind words....I acknowledge I do from time to time go off as well, but
on my word August will not see that from me in any post at any time.
Originally posted by vivifyTo guarantee that for all posts made in August by poster P, no one considers what was said is rude or disrespectful either to them or to their god, it would seem that P would have to be sickeningly and/or disingenuously polite ...
In a different thread, a few people have decided to designate August as a hate-free, disrespect-free, and rude-free month for the spirituality forum. You can see more here:
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=164799&page=1#post_3431470
In preparation for this, anyone willing to state (here or on this thread) that they will, no matte ...[text shortened]... f your personalities here; but I will do it, no matter how much we may have clashed in the past.
theist: Well the Bible says that all atheists are going to burn in hell for eternity
atheist : Well golly gosh
no swearing allowed remember, someone might think it is rude
... that seems ever so frightening! Can't challenge said Bible passage, someone might take it as disrespectful to their infallible God
theist: Perhaps you should turn to Christ ?
atheist: By jove good sir ... I'll have to give that some thought
A lie since debate is off the cards
theist: Wonderful! Now what should we talk about next?
atheist: ...
No thanks ... not from me!
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14 Jul 15
Originally posted by AgergThis is pretty much my problem with this idea.
To guarantee that [b]for all posts made in August by poster P, no one considers what was said is rude or disrespectful either to them or to their god, it would seem that P would have to be sickeningly and/or disingenuously polite ...
theist: Well the Bible says that all atheists are going to burn in hell for eternity
atheist : Well golly gosh[hi ...[text shortened]... st: Wonderful! Now what should we talk about next?
atheist: ...
No thanks ... not from me![/b]
It's pretty much exactly the same reason Suzianne got really mad at me.
Asking respect for the people, ok I get that, not everyone seems to me to deserve it, but ok.
However asking respect for the beliefs themselves...
As Agerg says, there is almost nothing we atheists can honestly say without 'disrespecting' peoples
religious beliefs. Because people take the very fact that we don't believe as being disrespectful.
People take the fact that we believe in secular morality and thus think we can judge their religion
and the supposed actions of their gods by that morality as disrespectful. etc etc.
And as Agerg says, some/many theists believe that we atheists will burn in hell, or simply be murdered
by their gods, simply for not believing in them. And they tell us this on a regular basis.
It's then rather galling to be told to be respectful to these people and their beliefs.
If a load of you guys are going to go for a month long love in then I'm certainly not going to try to disrupt
that any.
Just don't expect me to sign up to it.
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Originally posted by AgergI take you're apposed to the idea of extending a general rule of positivism and respect for fellow posters on the basis of having a different belief system?!
To guarantee that [b]for all posts made in August by poster P, no one considers what was said is rude or disrespectful either to them or to their god, it would seem that P would have to be sickeningly and/or disingenuously polite ...
theist: Well the Bible says that all atheists are going to burn in hell for eternity
atheist : Well golly gosh[hi ...[text shortened]... st: Wonderful! Now what should we talk about next?
atheist: ...
No thanks ... not from me![/b]
No one is saying you can't disagree with their beliefs. The main point is to not make personal attacks with rude and derogatory remarks about the person with whom you are debating.
14 Jul 15
The idea here and in the thread started by Kelly Jay is to bring about a coalition of posters that are weary of the negative effects of ad hominem attacks in this forum, by any and all, and to substitute a more thoughtfully respectful and positive objectivity to these boards.
Attack the idea or thought with all the objective vehemence you can muster, but keep you hands off the poster!
Can it be that difficult?
14 Jul 15
Originally posted by RJHindsYou are in far more need of forgiveness of mankind not some alleged god. This god will never forgive you since it never communicates, all you have are feelings. I THINK it forgave me, because I have that nice warm glow now. That is just a feeling, not a communications from a deity.
Unlike KellyJay, I do not have a level head and will make no such promise, because I am a terrible sinner in need of forgiveness and grace from God.
I doubt if i can keep such a promise, if one of those atheists or whoever rubs me the wrong way. But I wish you folks good luck with your experiment.
14 Jul 15
Originally posted by sonhouseOne doesn't know they're forgiven on the basis of feelings as you presuppose.
You are in far more need of forgiveness of mankind not some alleged god. This god will never forgive you since it never communicates, all you have are feelings. I THINK it forgave me, because I have that nice warm glow now. That is just a feeling, not a communications from a deity.
Knowing one is forgiven is based on fact, not feelings. Facts like knowing that the sin that separates man from God was delt with by Jesus Christ on the cross.