1. Standard memberKellyJay
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    27 Jan '14 14:27
    Originally posted by CalJust
    (Originally posted by KellyJay)
    I'm a young earth creationist, and I believe in evolution. Anything can be
    used to be anti-God even the Bible. People use almost anything to suit their
    own ends.
    Kelly



    This wasn't intended to be another (yawn!) thread about evolution per se, but merely to point out that it is factually incorrect to state that Ev ...[text shortened]... ,
    no matter how uncomfortable and abhorrent the concept may be to them, and if not, why not.[/b]
    I told you I believe in both Creation and evolution, and this is a factual
    statement.

    I'm not giving it credit for all the changes many want to give evolution
    credit for. That is not disbelieving in evolution that is not agreeing with the
    amount of change is possible within life forms. I accept that when you see
    changes in a life form kinds like a dog, you start with dog kinds you end
    with them you don't go from that into a bat, whale, tree, or flower over
    huge amounts of time.

    If you wish to promote changes in life forms over millions and billions of
    years, by all means you can do that, and claim evolution is how it was done.
    I reject that, but accept that we can have changes within kinds that will
    make a difference, but not so much to change one kind into another.
    Kelly
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    27 Jan '14 15:46
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    You don't have a stinking clue how everything got here, because of that
    if it didn't show up the way you believe it did, it could have shown up in
    ANY other way. I don't claim I know how old everything is, I say I believe
    or have faith, it isn't something I make factual claims about as you do.
    Kelly
    😴

    Same old dung heap of an argument trotted out again, change the record Kelly.
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    27 Jan '14 16:14
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    😴

    Same old dung heap of an argument trotted out again, change the record Kelly.
    Just answering the same ole claims made by people who are true believers.
    Change your beliefs you will more than likely get different responses from
    me.
    Kelly
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    27 Jan '14 16:361 edit
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Just answering the same ole claims made by people who are true believers.
    Change your beliefs you will more than likely get different responses from
    me.
    Kelly
    What, and believe humans lived with dinosaurs on a big boat?
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    27 Jan '14 18:15
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    What, and believe humans lived with dinosaurs on a big boat?
    frogs can become men! greatest fairytale like evah!
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    27 Jan '14 19:10
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    I told you I believe in both Creation and evolution, and this is a factual
    statement.

    I'm not giving it credit for all the changes many want to give evolution
    credit for. That is not disbelieving in evolution that is not agreeing with the
    amount of change is possible within life forms. I accept that when you see
    changes in a life form kinds like a do ...[text shortened]... thin kinds that will
    make a difference, but not so much to change one kind into another.
    Kelly
    There is no concept of "kind" in evolution theory. The closest fit might be species, wherein two animals are of different species if they cannot successfully reproduce one with the other.

    However:

    "A mule is the offspring of a male donkey and a female horse. Horses and donkeys are different species, with different numbers of chromosomes. "

    http://twistedsifter.com/2012/01/10-bizarre-hybrid-animals/

    This is an interesting site.
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    27 Jan '14 22:08
    Originally posted by JS357
    There is no concept of "kind" in evolution theory. The closest fit might be species, wherein two animals are of different species if they cannot successfully reproduce one with the other.

    However:

    "A mule is the offspring of a male donkey and a female horse. Horses and donkeys are different species, with different numbers of chromosomes. "

    http://twistedsifter.com/2012/01/10-bizarre-hybrid-animals/

    This is an interesting site.
    Scientist can not agree on what is a species.

    http://carlzimmer.com/articles/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1212035493
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    27 Jan '14 22:46
    Originally posted by JS357
    There is no concept of "kind" in evolution theory. The closest fit might be species, wherein two animals are of different species if they cannot successfully reproduce one with the other.

    However:

    "A mule is the offspring of a male donkey and a female horse. Horses and donkeys are different species, with different numbers of chromosomes. "

    http://twistedsifter.com/2012/01/10-bizarre-hybrid-animals/

    This is an interesting site.
    So it isn't a perfect fit than uh, they do not line up completely.
    Kelly
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    27 Jan '14 23:31
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Scientist can not agree on what is a species.

    http://carlzimmer.com/articles/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1212035493
    Taxonomy is an evolving area of biology.
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    27 Jan '14 23:42
    After they started finding blood in dinosaur bones, I no longer believe in evolution or the 13.8 billion years old age of the universe. What do small smelly little humans know anyway.
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    28 Jan '14 06:02
    Originally posted by tim88
    After they started finding blood in dinosaur bones, I no longer believe in evolution or the 13.8 billion years old age of the universe. What do small smelly little humans know anyway.
    I'll alert the media.
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    28 Jan '14 06:311 edit
    Originally posted by JS357
    I'll alert the media.
    The news media has known about this since 2005, however this is not the kind of story that gets much attention with most news media since it brings up questions for evilutionists.

    Soft Tissues Recovered from Ancient Dinosaur

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4559780

    YouTube

    Report on NSNBC

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    28 Jan '14 06:48
    Blood cells found in dinosaur bone.

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    Dinosaur with skin discovered reported on FOX News

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    28 Jan '14 07:07
    I believe God created it all but .....6K ? I go back n forth on this but for me look at the size of the universe and the Light/travel time dilemma this shows an old universe. Even if the measurements are off by 10% there are objects way further out than 6k light years from us. If God created the heavens and earth only 6000+ years ago we should be in a 6k light year cocoon/bubble with a blazing bright night sky filled with all of the stars at 6K light years around us right? However this is not what we see is it?

    Manny
    PS: many YECers have become a religion unto their own
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