1. Standard memberDasa
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    How can we tell if religion and science is true or false?
    Well you have to apply the acid test which is quick and accurate, and you will not have to get stuck in any long pointless arguments or debates which is what we all want……right?

    As I have just said it will be quick and accurate, so don’t be dismayed of the simplicity of the test….ok.

    False science: We are not talking about technology science- you know the science that gives us computers and TV but instead that science that talks about our origins and the universe and explains all those dusty bones that they dig up….ok.
    False science informs us that all there is in existence is matter, and this matter is responsible for consciousness, life, reproduction, determinism, self-repair of the body, communication through language, the senses, the emotions and all the elements that come together to give us the multitude of accessories we call food and clothing and technology and stuff.
    False science informs us that this matter is self-generated from nothing and that everything in existence coming from this matter is self-created through random chance without plan or intelligent cause.

    Science also informs us that proper scientific method is to perform experiments to establish their theories, but not one scientist has ever duplicated what matter does.
    In other words every day on planet earth there are millions of ants being created from dumb matter, but man himself cannot create one tiny little ant and with all the amazing technology at his disposal.
    This is called the BIG BLUFF, that matter is creating everything under its own volition and the failed attempts by the scientists to do what dumb matter is doing all the time is the proof that science is false.

    This false science informs us also that the universe with all its life came about by a big explosion from nowhere, and now we have a perfectly balanced cosmos with all the laws of physics keeping us all keeping on. And in fact they say over a long time that this matter became conscious and started to create bodies for its self to get around with……….you see the matter couldn’t walk to the water hole to drink so it self-created a body with legs and a tongue and a stomach and eyes and ears to have a drink of water……….you see ok.
    So this is what false science is telling us, and because it’s absurd we don’t accept it and that’s how we know the science is false….ok.
    But because false science wants to be known and accepted as keepers of the truth, they give each other certificates in biology and physics and tell us that they are educated and they must be believed because they are the ones holding the certificates…….you see.
    So we must believe them or else we can’t get any of those certificates for ourselves, which are good to have if you want to get paid well and be known as an educated person of high regard.

    False religion: Everything is eternal because you cannot destroy energy but sometimes something let’s say a universe is manifest and sometimes it’s not manifest, so knowledge of life and existence is eternal and this knowledge has always been available to mankind for mankind’s benefit. So when a false religion comes along a couple of thousand years ago we know instantly that it has been fabricated by someone for some reason.

    So why is that important to know? Well God is eternal so how can there be anything called a new religion if it’s about an eternal God? It makes no sense because knowledge of God must also be eternal and not fabricated from recent times in history like all the false religions of the world are.
    The only eternal and original and true religion is presented in the Vedas, and all others are but counterfeit.
    True religion is eternal and is never fabricated in recent times, so if it is a recent concoction then it has been fabricated by dubious persons….ok

    Also true religion teaches mercy, compassion, nonviolence tolerance and control of the mind and body and senses, so true religion never condones the killing of animals and in fact it teaches care and welfare to animals, and this is why all true religious persons are vegetarians and they never harm any creature.
    True religion teaches the eternal nature of the spiritual soul and informs us that the soul is the real person and not the material body, and that the eternal soul continually takes birth in this world over and over again. Therefore reincarnation is a fact and any religion that does not accept this is false and devoid of true knowledge.
    The soul being eternal is indestructible and cannot be harmed in any way, but false religion will not tell you this because it will take away the power the church has over the individual, and this false religion will allow you to believe that eternal life can only be obtained by being part of its congregation, and if you are not you will never receive eternal life.

    This false religion is confused about what they teach because on one hand they say that the sinning soul will go to the lake of fire for eternity, and on the other hand they say the soul will be destroyed forever……….so they are not sure what they are saying and this is what happens when false religion fabricates their doctrine. (they get mixed up)
    To have emotional control over the people and gain control, false religion will tell you that a particular man is God, and that this man suffered terribly on a cross for your sins, (this is to make you feel guilty) but if this man died for our sins why is everyone still sinning? (actually they are sinning more these days than ever before)

    A particular false religion created less than a couple of thousand years ago, has a murderess sexually depraved man as their prophet, and this is enough to say on the matter as regards to deciding if this religion is true or not, but for some reason millions of ignorant people are becoming part of this false religion because they are promised lots of sexual favours in the heaven they believe they are going to.
    These few things that I have mentioned should at once reveal the falsity of the religion you are about to embrace, or the science you are about to accept……………..but I could give many more examples of the falsity that is being passed on as truth.

    But for the honest person the few facts I have mentioned is enough (the acid test is complete)
  2. Standard memberChessPraxis
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    24 Jul '11 04:21
    Originally posted by Dasa
    How can we tell if religion and science is true or false?
    Well you have to apply the acid test which is quick and accurate, and you will not have to get stuck in any long pointless arguments or debates which is what we all want……right?

    As I have just said it will be quick and accurate, so don’t be dismayed of the simplicity of the test….ok.

    False scien ...[text shortened]...
    But for the honest person the few facts I have mentioned is enough (the acid test is complete)
    So give us some acid, so we can take the test.😕 WB BTW 🙂
  3. Standard memberRJHinds
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    24 Jul '11 08:281 edit
    Originally posted by Dasa
    How can we tell if religion and science is true or false?
    Well you have to apply the acid test which is quick and accurate, and you will not have to get stuck in any long pointless arguments or debates which is what we all want……right?

    As I have just said it will be quick and accurate, so don’t be dismayed of the simplicity of the test….ok.

    False scien ...[text shortened]...
    But for the honest person the few facts I have mentioned is enough (the acid test is complete)
    Hinduism is a false religion. Yahshua is the way, the truth, and the life.
    There is no other name given to men, by which they might be saved.
    HalleluYah!!!
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    24 Jul '11 08:34
    I've been waiting for this thread...
  5. SubscriberProper Knob
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    24 Jul '11 09:53
    Originally posted by avalanchethecat
    I've been waiting for this thread...
    There is a God after all.
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    Dasa and RJHinds, two rhodes scholars about to debate - please let me get comfy with some popcorn first guys.

    This is sure to be worthy of being televised.
  7. Standard memberDasa
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    24 Jul '11 18:03
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Hinduism is a false religion. Yahshua is the way, the truth, and the life.
    There is no other name given to men, by which they might be saved.
    HalleluYah!!!
    Have I mentioned the word Hinduism?............NO

    The word Hindu is not found in the Vedas.

    Hinduism is a recent creation by man as well, taking information from the Vedas and presenting it in inaccurate ways.

    I am not presenting Hinduism..............never did and never will.

    On the other hand Vaisnavism is what the Vedas present.

    Would you like to start again?
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    24 Jul '11 19:29
    Originally posted by Dasa
    Have I mentioned the word Hinduism?............NO

    The word Hindu is not found in the Vedas.

    Hinduism is a recent creation by man as well, taking information from the Vedas and presenting it in inaccurate ways.

    I am not presenting Hinduism..............never did and never will.

    On the other hand Vaisnavism is what the Vedas present.

    Would you like to start again?
    Vaishnavism is the branch of Hinduism in which Vishnu or one of his incarnations (usually Krishna or Rama) is worshipped as the supreme God. Members of Vaishnavism are called Vaishnavites or Vaishnavas. Vaishnavism is the largest Hindu denomination and it has numerous subdivisions.

    http://www.religionfacts.com/hinduism/sects/vaishnavism.htm
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    24 Jul '11 21:21
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Vaishnavism is the branch of Hinduism in which Vishnu or one of his incarnations (usually Krishna or Rama) is worshipped as the supreme God. Members of Vaishnavism are called Vaishnavites or Vaishnavas. Vaishnavism is the largest Hindu denomination and it has numerous subdivisions.

    http://www.religionfacts.com/hinduism/sects/vaishnavism.htm
    No.....its the other way round.

    Hinduism is the misunderstood understanding of the Vedic conclusion, giving supremacy to demigods.

    Supremacy is only attributed to the Supreme Personality of Godhead creator of the earthly and the spiritual.

    Demigods do not create the spiritual, but have power to create earthly bodies.

    You cannot Google the Vedas and expect to get the true understanding of the Vedas.

    On-line study of the Vedas will allow anyone who does it, to be misled.

    To understand the Vedas in its entirety, the person must live the spiritual life of purification to qualify themselves to enter into the spiritual understanding.

    You cannot understand the Vedas from only the academic view point (it cannot be done)
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    24 Jul '11 22:02
    Originally posted by Dasa
    But for the honest person the few facts I have mentioned is enough (the acid test is complete)
    You were dropping acid when you wrote this? 😉
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    24 Jul '11 22:18
    Originally posted by Proper Knob
    There is a God after all.
    God is a tweeting bird upon the lowest bough beyond our reach.

    *sound of a distant flute*

    God is a flower in the desert at dawn, and the sun too.

    *cry of the coyote*

    God is a cloud in an azure sky, that to each eye is another shape.

    *sigh of the wind*

    God is a random number generator that bids us wonder when we wonder not.

    *echoing cackle of a mad scientist*
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    24 Jul '11 22:38
    Originally posted by Dasa
    No.....its the other way round.

    Hinduism is the misunderstood understanding of the Vedic conclusion, giving supremacy to demigods.

    Supremacy is only attributed to the Supreme Personality of Godhead creator of the earthly and the spiritual.

    Demigods do not create the spiritual, but have power to create earthly bodies.

    You cannot Google the Vedas and ...[text shortened]... anding.

    You cannot understand the Vedas from only the academic view point (it cannot be done)
    There was an Indian lady who worked with me at the Post Office.
    She wore a red dot on her forhead. Do you wear a red dot also?
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    When you see Indians at the post office or supermarket or university or anywhere in fact...........well they are just as ignorant about Vedic knowledge as well, and usually have some twisted idea of the Vedas.

    Vaisnavism is for the serious student and sincere soul who is ready to give up all the mish-mash of false religions out their to pick from.

    Because the Vedas demand the person to live a civilized life and change their ways it is not popular, so that means that most of the persons who come in contact with its teachings turn away from the Vedas because it requires the people to give up their dishonest ways.

    Because people are not sincere and are lazy and foolish they subscribe to some false religion that allows them to eat flesh and live hedonistic life styles and get a free ticket to heaven............they get cheated but they don't mind because they are not really interested in God or religion, but just in the belief that they are going to heaven. (Indians are the same)
  14. Standard memberRJHinds
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    Originally posted by Dasa
    When you see Indians at the post office or supermarket or university or anywhere in fact...........well they are just as ignorant about Vedic knowledge as well, and usually have some twisted idea of the Vedas.

    Vaisnavism is for the serious student and sincere soul who is ready to give up all the mish-mash of false religions out their to pick from.

    Becaus ...[text shortened]... God or religion, but just in the belief that they are going to heaven. (Indians are the same)
    Does this mean you don't wear the red dot?
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    25 Jul '11 11:44
    Originally posted by Dasa
    How can we tell if religion and science is true or false?
    Well you have to apply the acid test which is quick and accurate, and you will not have to get stuck in any long pointless arguments or debates which is what we all want……right?

    As I have just said it will be quick and accurate, so don’t be dismayed of the simplicity of the test….ok.

    False scien ...[text shortened]...
    But for the honest person the few facts I have mentioned is enough (the acid test is complete)
    oh noes, he's alive. dasa voorhees, jason's little brother, only he annoys people to death instead of kebabing them.
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