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Is Jesus of New T LORD/Jehovah of the Old T?

Is Jesus of New T LORD/Jehovah of the Old T?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes, well they had better pony up the references then!
Why should they? Their own individual justifications as to why their interpretation of the Bible is best are no more inferior to yours. They may use a different metric than you to determine 'bestness'.

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Originally posted by Agerg
Why should they? Their own individual justifications as to why their interpretation of the Bible is best are no more inferior to yours. They may use a different metric than you to determine 'bestness'.
no i do not accept that premise, it is to state that after looking at one variation all other variations are equally as sound, is that what you would have us believe agers? surely variations must be thoroughly checked with reference otherwise how can you know if the variation you favour is sound or not.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no i do not accept that premise, it is to state that after looking at one variation all other variations are equally as sound, is that what you would have us believe agers? surely variations must be thoroughly checked with reference otherwise how can you know if the variation you favour is sound or not.
None of them are sound! 😵
As such, the statement no variation is better than any other is true in a vacuous sense!

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Originally posted by Agerg
None of them are sound! 😵
As such, the statement no variation is better than any other is true in a vacuous sense!
yes relative to you, but relative to each other, it cannot be the case.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes relative to you, but relative to each other, it cannot be the case.
Well it is relative to you, that your measure of 'bestness' correlates with how many references for your book of fairy tales you have - no other Christian needs to be held to that way of thinking.

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Originally posted by Agerg
Well it is relative to you, that your measure of 'bestness' correlates with how many references for your book of fairy tales you have - no other Christian needs to be held to that way of thinking.
well it goes without saying that the best variation must be the one that is the most
extensively researched for it draws upon a greater variety of sources or would you
say that vanilla is the best flavour of ice cream having failed to sample any others? no
neither would I.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
well it goes without saying that the best variation must be the one that is the most
extensively researched for it draws upon a greater variety of sources or would you
say that vanilla is the best flavour of ice cream having failed to sample any others? no
neither would I.
Speaking as devil's advocate here, perhaps they might argue they need only one reference - God!

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
well it goes without saying that the best variation must be the one that is the most
extensively researched for it draws upon a greater variety of sources or would you
say that vanilla is the best flavour of ice cream having failed to sample any others? no
neither would I.
I have sampled a few other flavors and I like vanilla best.

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I'm looking for the WHY when it is not scriptural (except in the JW version of the Bible)
From Robbie's perspective you've answered the *why* when you mentioned it is scriptural in the JW version of the Bible ;]

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Here's a pretty good summary of the Bible wording on this question:

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/interp/jesus_god.html

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Originally posted by Agerg
[b]I'm looking for the WHY when it is not scriptural (except in the JW version of the Bible)
From Robbie's perspective you've answered the *why* when you mentioned it is scriptural in the JW version of the Bible ;][/b]
thankyou Agers, why it evades our friend i have no idea, but just in case, here it is AGAIN,

(Hebrews 5:7) . . .In the days of his flesh Christ offered up supplications and also
petitions to the One who was able to save him out of death, with strong outcries and
tears, and he was favourably heard for his godly fear

if we are to believe the absurdity of those who claim that Christ is one and the same
with God, then he must of course be petitioning himself. Strange i know, but that's
nominal Christianity for you.

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It may simply be the case that the criterion one needs to satify to be a Christian is simply different from their perspective than it is from yours - based upon their interpretation of your 'holy' book

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
thankyou Agers, why it evades our friend i have no idea, but just in case, here it is AGAIN,

(Hebrews 5:7) . . .In the days of his flesh Christ offered up supplications and also
[b]petitions to the One who was able to save him out of death
, with strong outcries and
tears, and he was favourably heard for his godly fear

if we are to believ ...[text shortened]... t of course be petitioning himself. Strange i know, but that's
nominal Christianity for you.[/b]
Don't expect any consistency with my ''support' for your position Robbie! - I align my views with no theist on this debate...just trying to stir the pot on all sides equally ;]

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