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Is Jesus of New T LORD/Jehovah of the Old T?

Is Jesus of New T LORD/Jehovah of the Old T?

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no not really for they will usually have differing personal opinions with say regard to
major issues, like divorce, or abortion, or homosexuality, or use of images in worship,
the use of contraceptives, or evolution, etc etc , we have none of these issues and are
down to an individual, convinced of the integrity of our claims. For example if you
asked any ordinary and not special one these things you may likely get differing
answers.
I can't see how you can make that claim regarding all 33,000 different denominations of Christianity and countless other faiths worldwide.

I am also well aware of the level of indoctrination that permeates your organisation. As a fellow JW said on this board a while back -

We all think the same, talk the same look the same

In short, we have been assimilated by the collective!!!!

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
I can't see how you can make that claim regarding all 33,000 different denominations of Christianity and countless other faiths worldwide.

I am also well aware of the level of indoctrination that permeates your organisation. As a fellow JW said on this board a while back -

We all think the same, talk the same look the same

In short, we have been assimilated by the collective!!!!
well, you must not take his words out of context, he was referring of course to our
worship, for of course we have room for individuality. For example if you go to an
international convention you will see persons occasionally dressed in their national
dress, Japanese ladies with Kimono, Indians with Sari, the G-man with his Stetson hat,
Mexicans with the sombrero etc etc

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
I can't see how you can make that claim regarding all 33,000 different denominations of Christianity and countless other faiths worldwide.

I am also well aware of the level of indoctrination that permeates your organisation. As a fellow JW said on this board a while back -

We all think the same, talk the same look the same

In short, we have been assimilated by the collective!!!!
The word brotherhood and the love that we would have among ourselves is something that stands out compaired to any other so called Christian religion. We will not go to war and kill anyone much less our own brothers. This may not mean a thing to you but a blind person could see this love we have among ourselves is different.
And we are not all the same as I'm better looking then Robbie....Lol.

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Explain what? I think I've answered all you've asked but if not please ask again. Thanks.

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The clue is in the word "Christian." Was it not in 1054 that the Greek Orthodox Patriarch and the Latin Pope excommunicated each other, establishing the split in a Church that was for centuries undivided albeit diverse? So for about a thousand years they share the same history surely? The Eastern Church always had a more mystical character and the Latin Church really only pulled itself into its distinctive shape after this date though the gap grew from earlier origins. The Latin Church was really not very impressive in the early centuries of Christian history. As it expanded across Europe with the Franks, by force rather than conversion, it eliminated earlier Christian traditions, notably the Celtic / Irish.

Now the Gnostics and others were interesting and curious and certainly the early Church (from the time of Constantine) set about establishing an orthodoxy which eliminated many strands within the Roman Empire, leaving a few interesting outliers.

So to a large degree, modern Christianity dates from Constantine's first Council. Actually this is just another example of the way Christians have been allowed to write their own history and delete anything deviant. This does not improve the historical value of the New Testament. The texts date back to Paul and co but they are not a complete set of all that was written and much is irretrievably lost. Stalin had similar ideas about history.

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Originally posted by Proper Knob
I can't see how you can make that claim regarding all 33,000 different denominations of Christianity and countless other faiths worldwide.

I am also well aware of the level of indoctrination that permeates your organisation. As a fellow JW said on this board a while back -

We all think the same, talk the same look the same

In short, we have been assimilated by the collective!!!!
They Are Borg!!!!!

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Originally posted by galveston75
The word brotherhood and the love that we would have among ourselves is something that stands out compaired to any other so called Christian religion. We will not go to war and kill anyone much less our own brothers. This may not mean a thing to you but a blind person could see this love we have among ourselves is different.
And we are not all the same as I'm better looking then Robbie....Lol.
So where is justice? Some dude murders your wife (God forbid) does that person deserve to die? This is what is meant by an eye for an eye. This actually puts value on life if you think about it. It means if you murder then you will be killed. Love is not always some lala fairytale like you may think.



Manny

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Originally posted by menace71
They Are Borg!!!!!
resistance is futile.

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The Hebrew word used in Isaiah 9:6 for the term 'mighty god', in relation to Jesus Christ
is different from the word used for Almighty God a term used exclusively for Jehovah
himself. How it it that you are now saying that they are one and the same? even
though scripture clearly differentiates between the two? this is the second time I have
posted this. There has also been lots of other points throughout this thread that you
have failed to either acknowledge or answer and i for one am not going to waste my
time posting details which you are either unwilling or unable to even acknowledge.

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6 For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us;
And the government will rest on His shoulders;
And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.


How can He the Christ be called Eternal father?


Manny

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Originally posted by menace71
6 For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us;
And the government will rest on His shoulders;
And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.


How can He the Christ be called Eternal father?


Manny
easily, because he gives life to all those who come to him in earnest. As Jaywill likes to
point out, the Christ is a 'life giving spirit'.

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Isa 44:6 and Rev 22:13-26 Jesus and the almighty both call themselves the Alpha and Omega the beginning and the end. The Lamb and God are sharing the same throne all through out the book of revelation.



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