Is Jesus Willing?

Originally posted by FabianFnas
You don't know what you're talking about. Your argument is a copy of the Swedish racists arguments. They are scared to death of everything that are different. You are too.

Instead tell me why your god created cancer and alzheimer?

I don't know what I am talking about?

Are the Muslims integrating in large numbers or do they stick to their local community and traditional values?

Are the Muslims reproducing at a much faster rate compared to the indigenous population?

As for cancer, how much is due to lifestyle and pollution? In any case, we all die. Death entered with sin.

Originally posted by Eladar
I don't know what I am talking about?

Are the Muslims integrating in large numbers or do they stick to their local community and traditional values?

Are the Muslims reproducing at a much faster rate compared to the indigenous population?

As for cancer, how much is due to lifestyle and pollution? In any case, we all die. Death entered with sin.

So children get cancer because of their sins? Is this really the christian dogma? Really?
What have they done to deserve cancer?

Originally posted by FabianFnas
So children get cancer because of their sins? Is this really the christian dogma? Really?
What have they done to deserve cancer?

We all die.

As for children getting cancer, how much of that is to be blamed on society?

Originally posted by Eladar
We all die.

As for children getting cancer, how much of that is to be blamed on society?

So you wouldn't grief if your daughter dies in cancer at one years of age?
"Well, we're all going to die, so what?"
How very christian of you.

Back to the title of this thread. "Is Jesus Willing?" No, he isn't.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
So you wouldn't grief if your daughter dies in cancer at one years of age?
"Well, we're all going to die, so what?"
How very christian of you.

Back to the title of this thread. "Is Jesus Willing?" No, he isn't.

Jesus has healed people, and does still today, but the same thing happens to them as all
of those He healed when He walked among us as one of us, they still die. There is more
to this life than living and dying, and He is more concern about where we end up after this
life than putting off something that is going to happen regardless.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
So you wouldn't grief if your daughter dies in cancer at one years of age?
"Well, we're all going to die, so what?"
How very christian of you.

Back to the title of this thread. "Is Jesus Willing?" No, he isn't.

My daughter did died at 1 year old to a heart defect, and yes we are all going to die. That
does not add too or take away from that fact, it just confirms it, she could have lived till she
was 80, but at some point she was still going to die.

Originally posted by KellyJay
My daughter did died at 1 year old to a heart defect, and yes we are all going to die. That
does not add too or take away from that fact, it just confirms it, she could have lived till she
was 80, but at some point she was still going to die.

Did you pray? Did it help? No? Conclusion? God wasn't willing to help her!

Originally posted by Suzianne
Your comment is a thinly disguised attack on me for no reason other than I told you to have patience. As a bonus, you attack my method, which you are not, in any way, qualified to do.

I'll tell you the same as I tell FMF. Grow up.

It wasn't thInly veiled at all, I was calling you on your continued blatant hypocrisy. And you know it.

Originally posted by KellyJay
My daughter did died at 1 year old to a heart defect, and yes we are all going to die. That
does not add too or take away from that fact, it just confirms it, she could have lived till she
was 80, but at some point she was still going to die.

I can't imagine how tough that must still be.
Sorry for the depth of that loss.

Originally posted by divegeester
I can't imagine how tough that must still be.
Sorry for the depth of that loss.

Living in a violent country seeing death in the news everyday, Im immune from such pitying. We all die, we dont all live.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Living in a violent country seeing death in the news everyday, Im immune from such pitying. We all die, we dont all live.

I'm not pitying KellyJay, I'm trying to empathise.

Originally posted by FabianFnas
Did you pray? Did it help? No? Conclusion? God wasn't willing to help her!

You are not listening to what was already said, why should share with you any more.

Originally posted by Eladar
We all die.

As for children getting cancer, how much of that is to be blamed on society?

"What are we to say of the child dying from cancer? if this has been 'done' to anyone that is bad enough, but to be done for a purpose, planned from eternity, that is the deepest evil. If God is this kind of agent He can not justify His actions and his evil nature is revealed."

D.Z Phillips. (Use to know that quote by heart, but alas had to google the first part of it).

You ask how much is to be blamed on society. I ask you how much is to be blamed on God?

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
"What are we to say of the child dying from cancer? if this has been 'done' to anyone that is bad enough, but to be done for a purpose, planned from eternity, that is the deepest evil. If God is this kind of agent He can not justify His actions and his evil nature is revealed."

D.Z Phillips. (Use to know that quote by heart, but alas had to google ...[text shortened]... it).

You ask how much is to be blamed on society. I ask you how much is to be blamed on God?

Our evil deeds brought death into a world where it wasn't, the end result is now we all will
die at some point. Had we prayed and she lived to be 2 would that really change that fact,
what if she lived to 5 would that really have changed that fact, or 25? One of the many
things I took away from all that pain, is that each day is precious, we only got a year and
13 days with Ramie. The ones sitting with us at our tables, their days are as limited as
anyone else's, so they should be loved, and not taken for granted, tomorrow isn't promised.

Originally posted by KellyJay
Our evil deeds brought death into a world where it wasn't, the end result is now we all will
die at some point. Had we prayed and she lived to be 2 would that really change that fact,
what if she lived to 5 would that really have changed that fact, or 25? One of the many
things I took away from all that pain, is that each day is precious, we only got a y ...[text shortened]... as
anyone else's, so they should be loved, and not taken for granted, tomorrow isn't promised.

Sorry for your loss Kelly. Out of respect I won't come back to you on this. (The reason my post was in response to Eladar).