Originally posted by FMFSo what lawful objections do you have about the society I grew up in?
Well I would have my moral take on the different situations and it might lead to me being an activist (or even standing for office), or to me being a conscientious objector in some way, or even to me not wanting to live in a certain society and moving, instead, to one that I found more morally sound. .
Originally posted by dj2beckerIf you mean the cult you were the victim of, I would say there ought to be laws to deal with the kinds of abuse detailed at that web site you directed us to. I don't know what South African law has to say about those things.
So what lawful objections do you have about the society I grew up in?
Originally posted by dj2beckerWhen you say "the right" and "judge" what are you on about?
So if they lawfully did nothing wrong that you are aware of, what gives you the right to judge them for the way they raised me?
If by "judge" you mean express a moral view in a debate on an internet message board, then what is your objection?
What "right" am I exercising that you object to?
Originally posted by FMFIs there a law against such things where you are from?
If you mean the cult you were the victim of, I would say there ought to be laws to deal with the kinds of abuse detailed at that web site you directed us to. I don't know what South African law has to say about those things.
Originally posted by dj2beckerThe kinds of abuse detailed at that web site you directed us to? I'd have to look into the specifics. Essentially yes ~ the country I live in is a signatory of the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child ~ but some pretty morally unsound (in my view, that is) stuff goes on with impunity in some Islamic boarding schools here, and the authorities don't always want to get involved.
Is there a law against such things where you are from?
Originally posted by FMFI am talking about the supposed 'abuse' you think I suffered, are there laws against deprivation?
The kinds of abuse detailed at that web site you directed us to? I'd have to look into the specifics. Essentially yes ~ the country I live in is a signatory of the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child ~ but some pretty morally unsound (in my view, that is) stuff goes on with impunity in some Islamic boarding schools here, and the authorities don't always want to get involved.
Originally posted by dj2beckerLike I said, I'd have to look into the specifics. The country I live in is a signatory of the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child so yes, there are laws and by-laws about abuse and deprivation, but the authorities are not geared up to tackle it systematically. The activism I am involved in is more to do with education, training, awareness raising, and support to victims. But I'm not sure you should be measuring the cult you were a victim of against the goings on in Indonesia.
I am talking about the supposed 'abuse' you think I suffered, are there laws against deprivation?
Originally posted by FMFWhat kind of support do you give victims?
Like I said, I'd have to look into the specifics. The country I live in is a signatory of the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child so yes, there are laws and by-laws about abuse and deprivation, but the authorities are not geared up to tackle it systematically. The activism I am involved in is more to do with education, training, awareness raising, and sup ...[text shortened]... t sure you should be measuring the cult you were a victim of against the goings on in Indonesia.
Originally posted by FMFI said it's one thing to get out of a cult but another thing to get the cult out of you. You then said I was damaged. I told what it is that I actually meant. Yet you still insist that I was damaged even after I have corrected you. Do you get a kick out of doing stuff like that?
Like I said before. You described it. In some detail. You also conceded that you have been damaged by it. And you told us your parents apologized for it.