Originally posted by dj2beckerWe are exchanging and comparing and evaluating ideas that's all. That's what this forum is for. I don't care in the slightest that you choose to attach the label "universal truth" to what you are saying. It's utterly meaningless and adds nothing to what you say.
If you are not arguing from the assumption of universal truth, what is the point of the debate?
Indeed, I think I have been more open and forthcoming about my views on raising children than you have in the exchanges between us on this thread. Have you said anything of substance? If you have, I can't see what it is.
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Originally posted by FMFIf you are not arguing from the perspective of universal truth, it means you are arguing that maybe your perspective could be right or maybe it could be wrong. It's a self defeating position to be in.
I am sending you up, that's all. It could have been in italics instead... You could be wrong FMF.. You could be wrong FMF, na-na-ni na-na.
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Originally posted by FMFComparing and evaluating ideas without an objective point of reference is utterly meaningless.
We are exchanging and comparing and evaluating ideas that's all. That's what this forum is for. I don't care in the slightest that you choose to attach the label "universal truth" to what you are saying. It's utterly meaningless and adds nothing to what you say.
Indeed, I think I have been more open and forthcoming about my views on raising children than you ...[text shortened]... een us on this thread. Have you said anything of substance? If you have, I can't see what it is.
Originally posted by dj2beckerMy position (expressed on page 11) is self-defeating? How do you figure that?
If you are not arguing from the perspective of universal truth, it means you are arguing that maybe your perspective could be right or maybe it could be wrong. It's a self defeating position to be in.
If you arguing that your personal opinions about parenting are "universal truth", then you should already know it doesn't mean anything to me.
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Originally posted by FMFWell if your position is not one of universal truth it means that you are already conceding that it could be wrong.
My position (expressed on page 11) is self-defeating? How do you figure that?
If you arguing that your personal opinions about parenting are "universal truth", then you should already know it doesn't mean anything to me.
Originally posted by dj2beckerI don't care if you tout your personal opinions as having "an objective point of reference". It's no different from if your parents, back in the day when they were enabling a cult to abuse you for more than 2 decades and were complicit in it happening, had boasted that their justification for doing that to you for all those years had "an objective point of reference". It's just waffle and nonsense.
Comparing and evaluating ideas without an objective point of reference is utterly meaningless.
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Originally posted by FMFEither there is a correct way to raise a child or there isn't. If you claim there is a right way to raise a child how do you know that your personal opinion really is the right way? Who has the right to decide what the right way is and what gives them that right?
I don't care if you tout your personal opinions as having "an objective point of reference". It's no different from your parents, back in the day when they were enabling a cult to abuse you for more than 2 decades and were complicit in it happening, boasting that their justification for doing that to you for all those years had "an objective point of reference". It's just waffle and nonsense.
Originally posted by dj2beckerI have told you what my objectives are in raising a child. You can comment on it, critique it, respond to it if you want to. But you haven't.
Either there is a correct way to raise a child or there isn't. If you claim there is a right way to raise a child how do you know that your personal opinion really is the right way?