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I'm guessing most people have been exposed to some form of religious indoctrination. Some people argue that this is a form of child abuse.
Other people would argue that it is the most common form of social acculturation.
They argue that people teach their children the things they believe and the things they think they should know. And that’s what has been going on for millennia.
What are your thoughts on the issue?
Originally posted by dj2beckerWhat you claimed you experienced was child abuse. Without a shadow of a doubt. Is being raised a Christian always child abuse? Is a religious education always child abuse? No of course not. Don't be daft. You sound like you're licking forum wounds.
I'm guessing most people have been exposed to some form of religious indoctrination. Some people argue that this is a form of child abuse.
Other people would argue that it is the most common form of social acculturation.
They argue that people teach their children the things they believe and the things they think they should know. And that’s what has been going on for millennia.
What are your thoughts on the issue?
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Originally posted by FMFSo when exactly is religious indoctrination child abuse and when isn't it?
What you claimed you experienced was child abuse. Without a shadow of a doubt. Is being raised a Christian always child abuse? Is a religious education always child abuse? No of course not. Don't be daft. You sound like you're licking forum wounds.
Originally posted by dj2beckerI think it is first important to differentiate between 'indoctrination' and 'brain washing.' Quite often in conversation the two seem interchangeable, but actually are not the same at all.
I'm guessing most people have been exposed to some form of religious indoctrination. Some people argue that this is a form of child abuse.
Other people would argue that it is the most common form of social acculturation.
They argue that people teach their children the things they believe and the things they think they should know. And that’s what has been going on for millennia.
What are your thoughts on the issue?
A child for example being exposed to religious indoctrination at his local Sunday school is not the same as a child spending his entire childhood in a cult being brain washed by people in a controlling position over him.
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Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeSo the difference in time frame is what makes the one abuse and the other one not?
I think it is first important to differentiate between 'indoctrination' and 'brain washing.' Quite often in conversation the two seem interchangeable, but actually are not the same at all.
A child for example being exposed to religious indoctrination at his local Sunday school is not the same as a child spending his entire childhood in a cult being brain washed by people in a controlling position over him.
Originally posted by dj2beckerI would say that religious instruction should come without consequences.
I'm guessing most people have been exposed to some form of religious indoctrination. Some people argue that this is a form of child abuse.
Other people would argue that it is the most common form of social acculturation.
They argue that people teach their children the things they believe and the things they think they should know. And that’s what has been going on for millennia.
What are your thoughts on the issue?
Religious indoctrination / brain washing has to do with time and done over a long period.
The type that constitutes abuse has dire consequences if the rules are not followed eg excommunication, shunning and other family relationship .consequences.
I personally experienced all types but was lucky enough to spot it as a teenager, moved out of it as a young adult, but it took a while, several decades to get it out of my system.
It is important for those who have been through it, not to pass that behavior on to the next generation.
Originally posted by dj2beckerCan you first confirm you have ' taken the time to look in to the difference between indoctrination and brain washing.'
Would you agree that anyone who experiences brainwashing lives in constant fear?
(The answer to your simplistic question though is no, as obviously people are not always aware they are being brain washed, especially a child).
Originally posted by dj2beckerKids need guidance. Here's a rule: sometimes you will disobey, and we will still love you.
I'm guessing most people have been exposed to some form of religious indoctrination. Some people argue that this is a form of child abuse. ...
But kid keep it to a minimum. Choose your battles.
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Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeYes I have.
Can you first confirm you have ' taken the time to look in to the difference between indoctrination and brain washing.'
(The answer to your simplistic question though is no, as obviously people are not always aware they are being brain washed, especially a child).
Indoctrination is the process of teaching a person or group to accept a set of beliefs uncritically.
Brainwash means 'pressurize (someone) into adopting radically different beliefs by using systematic and often forcible means.'
Since I was born into the cult I and now that I have looked up the meanings I think it would probably be more accurate to say I was indoctrinated rather than brainwashed since brainwashing forces someone to change their pre existing beliefs.