Is religious indoctrination child abuse?

Originally posted by FMF
My view is that it is most certainly relevant. People only have to look at [thread]173077[/thread] to see why I think so. You have no morally sound parental model in your own life upon which to base your pronouncements about parental rights and responsibilities. A generous pinch of salt is certainly called for.

Sure you are entitled to your opinion that it is relevant just as I am entitled to mine that is isn't.

You are also entitled to your opinion that the 'morally sound parental model' that you have in your mind in the only universally correct model there is (and that it applies to everyone) and that anyone who has a different model is wrong.

Originally posted by FMF
You described it. In some detail. You also conceded that you have been damaged by it. And you told us your parents apologized for it.

Wow you are using the word 'damaged' again even if I never used it myself, and corrected you on the issue. `You really have a sick agenda.

Originally posted by dj2becker
You are also entitled to your opinion that the 'morally sound parental model' that you have in your mind in the only universally correct model there is (and that it applies to everyone) and that anyone who has a different model is wrong.

Where did I say anything even remotely like this?

Originally posted by FMF
Where did I say anything even remotely like this?

I quoted you verbatim. Sound familiar?

Originally posted by dj2becker
Wow you are using the word 'damaged' again even if I never used it myself, and corrected you on the issue. `You really have a sick agenda.

People can see for themselves on page 50 of Thread 173077

And your extremely peculiar behaviour on pages 51-55 when asked about it.

Originally posted by dj2becker
I quoted you verbatim. Sound familiar?

Where? I did not say that the parental model' that I have in my mind is the only universally correct model there is and that it applies to everyone and that anyone who has a different model is wrong. If it is a verbatim quote, as you now say, in which post did I write those words?

Originally posted by FMF
People can see for themselves on page 50 of Thread 173077

And your extremely peculiar behaviour on pages 51-55 when asked about it.

Ok so you enjoy twisting peoples words and continue to do so even if corrected. Nothing new here.

Originally posted by FMF
Where? I did not say that the parental model' that I have in my mind is the only universally correct model there is and that it applies to everyone and that anyone who has a different model is wrong. If it is a verbatim quote, as you now say, in which post did I write those words?

So could the parenting model I have in my mind be correct, if yours is not the 'only universally correct model there is'?

Originally posted by dj2becker
Ok so you enjoy twisting peoples words and continue to do so even if corrected. Nothing new here.

People can judge for themselves the credibility of any 'correction' you reckon you made. If you think the red herring/non-sequitur you offered on page 56 of that thread, then that is laughable. You are in denial.

Originally posted by FMF
People can judge for themselves the credibility of any 'correction' you reckon you made. If you think the red herring/non-sequitur you offered on page 56 of that thread, then that is laughable. You are in denial.

So are you saying in this case your view on this issue is the only universally correct view there is and that anyone with a different view is wrong?

Originally posted by dj2becker
So could the parenting model I have in my mind be correct, if yours is not the 'only universally correct model there is'?

Yes. Sure it could be. And I would simply assume it was - whatever it is - if it were not for the fact that you were psychologically abused for 24 years and are in complete and utter disingenuous denial about it, and the only parents you've ever had were complicit in it.

Originally posted by dj2becker
So are you saying in this case your view on this issue is the only universally correct view there is and that anyone with a different view is wrong?

Where did I ever say any such thing? Which post of mine are you referring to?

Originally posted by dj2becker
So you think because I actually have experienced psychological abuse personally I have no right to voice my opinion about it whereas you who have not experienced it personally are justified in voicing your opinion? 🙄

Hang on, so now you 'have' experienced psychological abuse, just because it's convenient to say so in this particular conversation?

🙄

Originally posted by FMF
Yes. Sure it could be. And I would simply assume it was - whatever it is - if it were not for the fact that you were psychologically abused for 24 years and are in complete and utter disingenuous denial about it, and the only parents you've ever had were complicit in it.

And your opinion could also be wrong, correct?

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Hang on, so now you 'have' experienced psychological abuse, just because it's convenient to say so in this particular conversation?

🙄

I said FMF thinks I did. "So you think..."