Spirituality
10 Apr 23
10 Apr 23
@kellyjay said"Sin" only exists in the minds of people who believe there is a creator entity that has a will that they can transgress. It is a "real thing" in so far as people do/don't do things in their real lives as a result of their notion of "sin".
Is evil a real think? Thoughts
"Evil" is an egregious, gratuitous, sociopathic action that is gravely detrimental /damaging to others, and which stems from an abject lack or even absence of empathy and compassion. Are such behaviours "real"? Yes, of course.
@kellyjay saidSin is a biblical concept relating to certain types of thoughts and behaviours which contravene ancient Hebrew law. Non subscribers to Judaism or Christianity won’t recognise the concept.
Is evil a real think? Thoughts
Evil is an adjective to describe a certain type of behaviour associated with doing harm to another person. Most people of all beliefs and atheists will recognise “evil” as an adjective, but not as an entity or supernatural force of itself.
Your thoughts on that Kellyjay?
10 Apr 23
@fmf saidThe word "evil" is an overused word and its meaning is much diluted. It's also probably best used as an adjective rather than a noun. I don't believe it's a 'thing' that exists or that was instituted by an evil being. The word "evil" is simply an adjective that is more loaded up with disapproval than the word "bad".
"Evil" is an egregious, gratuitous, sociopathic action that is gravely detrimental /damaging to others, and which stems from an abject lack or even absence of empathy and compassion. Are such behaviours "real"? Yes, of course.
10 Apr 23
@moonbus saidReally, how does that work, do you get to say what is evil and so to someone else and you can call something evil and they accept it as good, you both disagree and that is fine because it is like any other value judgment, an eye of the beholder type of thing. We can treat each other rather badly, sometimes extremely, but is that too just a value judgment like any other judgment?
Evil is a value judgement. As real as any other value judgment.
10 Apr 23
@moonbus saidCurious do you have to ponder if something is evil or not, can someone talk you into calling something evil, or out of it? If evil is a real part of reality wouldn’t that mean you are on the oblivious side of it?
Yes, it’s a real think. Just as real as any other thought is.
10 Apr 23
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@kellyjay saidNot all people agree on when the term "evil" applies or is appropriate.
If evil is a real part of reality wouldn’t that mean you are on the oblivious side of it?
You asserted [in 2022] that not believing in your God figure was perhaps the most "evil" thing of all. That seems like a fanatical point of view to me.
You also claimed [in 2022] that you are "equally as evil as a rapist" because "all evil is the same".
I don't see either of those assertions about "evil" as being true. Indeed, I find them preposterous. So, there you go. People don't always agree.
10 Apr 23
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@kellyjay saidSome "evil" is carried out in secret. It has to be uncovered.
Curious do you have to ponder if something is evil or not, can someone talk you into calling something evil, or out of it?
Sometimes the harmful element - that has to be there for something to be "evil" - is not necessarily perceived or understood.
"Evil" activities can be disguised with deception.
So, yes, in such situations, "someone can talk you into calling something evil"... if they uncover something, explain consequences, or expose lies.