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    http://news.yahoo.com/islamic-state-seeks-justify-enslaving-yazidi-women-girls-150713031.html

    This thread is inspired by ISIS claims that they are implementing Sharia law by taking prisoner the women and children of combatants and making them slaves.

    Is slavery justified under Sharia law?
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    14 Oct '14 02:38
    Originally posted by whodey
    http://news.yahoo.com/islamic-state-seeks-justify-enslaving-yazidi-women-girls-150713031.html

    This thread is inspired by ISIS claims that they are implementing Sharia law by taking prisoner the women and children of combatants and making them slaves.

    Is slavery justified under Sharia law?
    There's an article on Islamic views on slavery here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_views_on_slavery
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    14 Oct '14 02:44
    Then there's this one:

    www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/015-slavery.htm

    ...which is blocked where I live so presumably it's critical/negative.
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    Here is the BBC's page on the subject:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/history/slavery_1.shtml

    And here's a look at it on the www.khilafah.com web site:

    http://www.khilafah.com/index.php/the-khilafah/foreign-policy/2764-the-islamic-view-on-slaves-and-slavery
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    14 Oct '14 02:57
    Originally posted by whodey
    Is slavery justified under Sharia law?
    Perhaps you should read up on the subject. I don't think there is anyone here on this forum with enough theological knowledge to answer your question.
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    "Muhammad made it legal for his men to marry their slaves and the women they captured in war, giving them full marriage rights.[18][19] In addition, according to Muslim theologians, he made it lawful for male masters to have sexual relations with female captives and slaves"

    This is what wiki says. If so, then slavery will always be a part of Islam. In fact, it must be since Mohammad is the be all when it comes to theology. What he says goes, and no one may ever change his edicts.
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    14 Oct '14 13:07
    Originally posted by whodey
    "Muhammad made it legal for his men to marry their slaves and the women they captured in war, giving them full marriage rights.[18][19] In addition, according to Muslim theologians, he made it lawful for male masters to have sexual relations with female captives and slaves"

    This is what wiki says. If so, then slavery will always be a part of Islam. In fa ...[text shortened]... the be all when it comes to theology. What he says goes, and no one may ever change his edicts.
    And now what?
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    14 Oct '14 13:08
    Originally posted by Great King Rat
    And now what?
    Now we either embrace this religious theology and be tolerant of it, or we don't.
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    14 Oct '14 13:18
    Originally posted by whodey
    Now we either embrace this religious theology and be tolerant of it, or we don't.
    Well, I certainly won't embrace it because it's a religion and I spit on religions.

    Apparently the only alternative I have now is to be intolerant of it. And the same for everyone else who won't embrace Islam.

    The obvious question then is: how is this intolerance going to work in practice? How do you propose this intolerance will be executed?
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    14 Oct '14 13:50
    Originally posted by Great King Rat
    Well, I certainly won't embrace it because it's a religion and I spit on religions.

    Apparently the only alternative I have now is to be intolerant of it. And the same for everyone else who won't embrace Islam.

    The obvious question then is: how is this intolerance going to work in practice? How do you propose this intolerance will be executed?
    Well that is just it, how do you fight a global religion where they seem to immigrate in mass to various countries around the world?
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    Originally posted by whodey
    Well that is just it, how do you fight a global religion where they seem to immigrate in mass to various countries around the world?
    Erm... alright... you’re being vague. You’re saying we should be intolerant of Islam. How do you propose we do that? The question is simple enough, yes?
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    14 Oct '14 14:33
    Originally posted by FMF
    Perhaps you should read up on the subject. I don't think there is anyone here on this forum with enough theological knowledge to answer your question.
    Except me! 😉

    Have you ever noticed how Muslims bow their head to the ground and actually press the forehead against it?

    Apparently Allah wants everyone to be a slave. Literally!

    Not so the only true God, the one we call father. God wants true sons and daughters, not slaves.
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    Originally posted by josephw
    Except me! 😉

    Have you ever noticed how Muslims bow their head to the ground and actually press the forehead against it?

    Apparently Allah wants everyone to be a slave. Literally!

    Not so the only true God, the one we call father. God wants true sons and daughters, not slaves.
    The pope actually kisses the ground, doesn't he?
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    14 Oct '14 18:24
    Originally posted by Great King Rat
    The pope actually kisses the ground, doesn't he?
    I guess he's a slave too, but of his own doing. Christians too do all manner of goofy stuff. But the whole of Islam is begging on its face to god that doesn't have a face.

    Do you want to worship a God that requires slavish servitude? Or one that calls you a brother?
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    14 Oct '14 18:58
    Originally posted by whodey
    Well that is just it, how do you fight a global religion where they seem to immigrate in mass to various countries around the world?
    Well before we deal with Islam, lets also be intolerant of that other global religion that is even more prevalent where we live and that also has a clear history of supporting slavery and clear verses in its holy book supporting slavery. How do you suggest we practice intolerance towards that religion?
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