@Rajk999 saidThere are number of points raised in your post, I've split them off so as not to conflate.
I dont see the relevance of the USA exporting eugenics to Germany. Please explain.
I posted because that I thought that it was somewhat ironical that it was the US hierarchy that enabled the mass murder of Jews in in WW2, and here you were again advocating for what appeared to me as the mass mused of Muslims by the same crowd.
The posts that you made that med we think this were
"I have no problem with the US destroying Islam and Muslims, especially those who kill Christians and who believe Christians should be killed"
and then there was
"Nothing is wrong with bombing some of those Mideast countries"
If I have misunderstood your sentiments you can see why I might have picked up these vibes.
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@Rajk999 saidI'm not being secretive, I was just hoping that that there might be ideas bouncing around so that the approach might be a bit more collaborative.
As for the 5th power, maybe you can share your ideas so that a discussion can take place instead of being secretive.
The world powers
1) Babylon - Daniel tells us this is the head of gold (Dan 2:36)
2) Medo/Persia - this happens within the book of Daniel while they are feasting in Chapter 5. Belshazzar misuses the temple implements, and have the "writing on the wall" shortly after which the the Persons who have damned up the the Euphrates conquers Babylon by storming it along the river bed. See also Ezra 1:2
3) Greece - were are told this would happen in Daniel Chapter 8 the Hairy he-goat conquers the two horned ram. Gabriel explains that the he-goat is Greece and the Ram is Medo Persia at 8:20-21
4) Rome - established by Octavian who was named Caesar Augustus, the very person that instigated the census that saw Mary and Jospeh go to Bethlehem. Augustus took the title "Pontifex Maximus", which was later used ("Pontiff" ) in relation to Popes. Although the Roman empire as a military force started to wane when in was split in two, Italy was eventually conquered by Germanic leader Odoacer who became King of Italy. The holy Roman (religious) empire was an extension of Rome, and is commonly cited as having its beginning in the year 800 when Pope Leo 3 crowned Charlemagne on Christmas Day.
5) UK/USA - the final world power became a duopoly. It started off with Henry 8th defying the papacy and creating the Church of England. Rome then entered into a proxy war with using France Spain and Holland who could not bring England to order. Britain went on to create an empire upon which "the sun never set" it was that big. As Germany was formed out of the Austro Hungarian Empire (1871), it became a worrying "new kind on the block" and wanted a slice of the action in Africa, which France Britain and Belgium and essentially didivid up a few years earlier. It was concluded (Cecil Rhodes backed by the Rothschilds) that the only way that Britain was going to keep ahead of Germany was if it could somehow reconnect with former colonies - an interesting project as the UK and USA were at war in 1813. In the late 1800's the round table was formed specifically as a funding point for the sole purpose of yoking the former colonies of the USA to the UK (1891).
These are (I believe) the five world powers of Nebuchadnezzar's dream, and at this point will make way as other people may way have other ideas?
@medullah saidOk. So your #5 is the UK/USA group. Are their allies included? Like Australia, Europe, Israel?
I'm not being secretive, I was just hoping that that there might be ideas bouncing around so that the approach might be a bit more collaborative.
The world powers
1) Babylon - Daniel tells us this is the head of gold (Dan 2:36)
2) Medo/Persia - this happens within the book of Daniel while they are feasting in Chapter 5. Belshazzar misuses the temple implements, and ...[text shortened]... of Nebuchadnezzar's dream, and at this point will make way as other people may way have other ideas?
And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
(Dan 2:44 KJV)
God set up this group and it will stand forever, and consume all other kingdoms?
@medullah saidYou are still not explaining how it is that the US is guilty of enabling the mass murder of Jews? Do you have a link to some information that I can read?
There are number of points raised in your post, I've split them off so as not to conflate.
I posted because that I thought that it was somewhat ironical that it was the US hierarchy that enabled the mass murder of Jews in in WW2, and here you were again advocating for what appeared to me as the mass mused of Muslims by the same crowd.
The posts that you made that med w ...[text shortened]... ries"
If I have misunderstood your sentiments you can see why I might have picked up these vibes.
Muslims are a murderous bunch of people. I have posted at length on this. Islam is a Satanic cult and needs to be removed.
I cannot how you seem to be equating the Jews with Muslims.
@Arkturos saidThis is a failed interpretation of the teachings of Christ, and Im pretty sure you know better, but you just go around looking for stupid arguments. It is as bad as saying that 'love your neighbour' means it is ok to have a homosexual relationship. Its nonsense.
So much for loving one's enemies.
Love your enemies means to do good even to your enemies that is, to help, feed, clothe if they are in need. Jesus warned people that helping only their friends is not charitable love.
Love your enemies does not include being stupid and allowing murderers to kill you, and you are a damn fool to suggest that Jesus meant that.
@Arkturos saidHere is Jesus sending out disciples to preach, advising them to carry a sword :
So much for loving one's enemies.
And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. ... And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough. (Luk 22:35-38 KJV)
The modern-day equivalent of that instruction is to carry a gun. Jesus never told anyone to lay down and die to please murderers.
Furthermore if you mistakenly think Jesus was all about peace and love, read this :
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. (Mat 10:34-39 KJV)
@Rajk999 saidNo, forget the hangers on and think purely the world power itself Anglo-America.
Ok. So your #5 is the UK/USA group. Are their allies included? Like Australia, Europe, Israel?
And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
(Dan 2:44 KJV)
God set up this group and it will stand forever, and consume all other kingdoms?
It's this last power that gets crushed (ending the line of the other human imperfect human governments) - "O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps." KJV Jer 10:23
@medullah saidOk. let me have a think about that for a couple days.
No, forget the hangers on and think purely the world power itself Anglo-America.
It's this last power that gets crushed (ending the line of the other human imperfect human governments) - "O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps." KJV Jer 10:23
Will respond after.
@medullah saidOk I read up on that. So in the early 1900s the US and Europe were toying with [and even doing it] the idea of using sterilization to stop reproduction in certain people. These were mentally and physically disabled, murderers and people with persistent criminal lifestyles and other such undesirables. It was not a race issue. In the US there were about 60,000 such people who were sterilized. After that in Europe in the time of Hitler there were close to 400,000 such cases. After 1945, this practice was discontinued.
I did pen this Raj but something went wrong with my computer - I’m out at the moment but will provide you with a trail that you can follow probably tomorrow.
The question is how is the US responsible for Hitlers use of eugenics in Germany?
@medullah saidTrue, but Daniel says that this kingdom will stand forever.
@Rajk999
Logically speaking, somebody must be in power as the pre-eminent world power when the full power of The Kingdom comes to bear.
No rush.
It sounds like this is the Kingdom of God.
A kingdom ruled by men does not seem to fit.
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@Rajk999 saidI will pick put light on the subject. Can I make it clear at this point (distinguish) between the elite of the USA and the ordinary working man (which is often the way that politics breaks down)
Ok I read up on that. So in the early 1900s the US and Europe were toying with [and even doing it] the idea of using sterilization to stop reproduction in certain people. These were mentally and physically disabled, murderers and people with persistent criminal lifestyles and other such undesirables. It was not a race issue. In the US there were about 60,000 such people w ...[text shortened]... s discontinued.
The question is how is the US responsible for Hitlers use of eugenics in Germany?
When war came the sons of America gave their life’s blood to help Europe stay free - as was the case with the working people of Europe. It wasn’t the people of the USA as a collective that were supportive of the Nazis, but the elite - the same was true of the UK.
I’ll gather it together.