@sonship saidI've answered this earlier; we are not God's unless Christ is in us; that does not turn us into 'God'; it makes us right with God redeemed into His family, restored to where we should be. God is, was, and forever will be the same. We are not like that. God never changes; we are not like that; we are born again. God is the first cause of all things, the prime reason for all reality as it is; we don't become that; we get to be His children, a royal priesthood.
@KellyJay
I'd have huge issues with saying we are being made into God.
I agree one needs to be careful.
However, consider the facts.
Has Jesus Christ become a part of you ?
"Christ our life . . . Christ in you the hope of glory"
Is Jesus Christ God?
Could you say you have been, let's say - "Christ-ified?" ...[text shortened]... has not part of you been made God?
Has part of you been deified?
If not then why not ?
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Believers in the Lord and Savior Jesus,
If the Lord Spirit is one spirit with those joined to Him (1 Cor. 6:17) can we say that they have been - "Spirit -ified?"
Is the Holy Spirit God?
Then has part of them been deified?
Hasn't part of them been made God?
"He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit." (1 Cor. 6:17)
If the Spirit is God and your spirit is one spirit with God - then how is that not being deified ?
@sonship saidThis is just obfuscation. You are not careful at all. You have created multiple threads announcing your personal deification in an ongoing endeavor to lead genuine Christians away from scripture.
@KellyJay
I'd have huge issues with saying we are being made into God.
I agree one needs to be careful.
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@kellyjay saidTook your time but at least you got there in the end.
I've answered this earlier; we are not God's unless Christ is in us; that does not turn us into 'God'; it makes us right with God redeemed into His family, restored to where we should be. God is, was, and forever will be the same. We are not like that. God never changes; we are not like that; we are born again. God is the first cause of all things, the prime reason for all reality as it is; we don't become that; we get to be His children, a royal priesthood.
@sonship saidThink of the holy spirit as an alcoholic spirit. (For metaphorical purposes).
Believers in the Lord and Savior Jesus,
If the Lord Spirit is one spirit with those joined to Him (1 Cor. 6:17) can we say that they have been - "Spirit -ified?"
Is the Holy Spirit God?
Then has part of them been deified?
Hasn't part of them been made God?
"He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit." (1 Cor. 6:17)
If the Spirit is God and your spirit is one spirit with God - then how is that not being deified ?
A man drinks a brandy which becomes part of him and has a transforming effect on him. He becomes under the influence of the spirit that he carries with him. At no point, however, does the man become the brandy.
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I've answered this earlier; we are not God's unless Christ is in us;
I am with you that we are not God's possession as organic children of His unless
Christ is in us. Amen to that.
that does not turn us into 'God'; it makes us right with God redeemed into His family,
Is the family of a man the extension of the man?
Is the family of a man the expansion of the man?
In the sense that the man's life has been passed on into his children?
restored to where we should be. God is, was, and forever will be the same. We are not like that. God never changes; we are not like that; we are born again.
The new birth is really the birth of God's life in Christ as the Spirit within the human being. It is God'ds life being born. Yet is the believer's new birth.
It is the compounding of the life of God into his already possessed natural human life. And this life is Christ. And this life will not only sping up into our eternal life (John 4:14)
" the water that I will give him will become in him a fountain of water spinging up into eternal life."
God's life wells up within like a fountain ushering in eternal life within.
And the divine life of Christ will also "swallow" us up from without.
" . . . clothed upon, that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life." (2 Cor. 5:4) .
If within saturation and without being swallowed up by the life of the Triune God isn't that being made God in life and nature and expression yet not in His Godhead?
I say that is the culmination of being deified God-men.
Reconcilation to God by redemption is for the dispensing of God into our being.
God is the first cause of all things, the prime reason for all reality as it is; we don't become that; we get to be His children, a royal priesthood.
Yes.
Yet all children are an expansion of the life of the parent.
Paul said that in the Body we may grow up into Him the Head in all things.
What is growing?
It is not the natural life that is growing.
It is the divine life, the life of God in us that is growing.
Because that life has also become our life, is growing in us is out growing.
No individual can fully express God.
The corporate Body of billions of saved grows up into Him for a collective
expression of God mingled with man.
You remember what Adam said about his wife when she was finally taken out of him and brought back to him.
"This time this is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; This one shall be called Woman because out of Man this one was taken." (Gen. 2:23)
The two became one flesh in marriage.
We are headed to be Mrs. God.
Or we can say we are headed to a destiny to be Mrs. Christ.
That requires not only we be cleaned and forgiven but be deified God-men to match the God-man. Yet we can never be the Godhead He uniquely possesses.
This was never in the past.
This is beyond the restoration of Adam to a paradise state.
This is something new which God predestinated us for before the creation of the
world.
@sonship saidAs I said, we are redeemed; we do not turn into God, and God doesn't grow on account of us either. He is infinite and eternal; He doesn't grow; He is the great I AM. He is changeless; He doesn't improve or ever become less than He is in all aspects. We add nothing to God; we can bring nothing new to God that He isn't already Lord and owner of because He created all things for Himself.
@KellyJay
I've answered this earlier; we are not God's unless Christ is in us;
I am with you that we are not God's possession as organic children of His unless
Christ is in us. Amen to that.
that does not turn us into 'God'; it makes us right with God redeemed into His family,
Is the family of a man the ext ...[text shortened]... eified God-men.
Reconcilation to God by redemption is for the dispensing of God into our being.