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Originally posted by avalanchethecatgulp! gulp! camel camel, strain strain, gnat gnat. Indeed have you never read of the
Oh dear. Well Robbie, I gave you ample chance to withdraw from this discussion but you chose to stick stubbornly to your incorrect views. I suppose then, I have no option but to shoot you down in flames.
In fact, there is a word in ancient Hebrew which translates to 'ball' or 'sphere'. You will find it used in the bible in Isiah 22:18. Now, what d better from you. I have, of course, now adjusted my expectations in this regard.
analogy of the special theory of relativity which described how space and objects
behave relative to each other?, for example a trampoline gauze may be used to utilise
space, place a heavy object such as a bowling ball in the centre and it will , 'bend ',
space, take a much lighter object such as a marble and set it in motion and it will,
'orbit', the larger one due to gravity and centrifugal force. Indeed, you will now state
why this is an inaccurate portrayal. Your semantic arguments over the technical details
of sphere, oblate spheroid or circle, amount to just that, pedantry. If you are offended
by this then so be it, I have never wished to be popular.
As for the term at Isaiah, I produce it here,
(Isaiah 22:18) Without fail he will wrap you up tightly, like a ball for a wide land.
There you will die, and there the chariots of your glory will be the dishonor of the
house of your master.
One Hebrew word for “generation” is dohr, corresponding to the Aramaic dar. (Da
4:3, 34) Dohr comes from a root verb meaning “stack in a circle” or “move around”
(Eze 24:5; Ps 84:10) and thus has a basic underlying meaning of “circle.” The
related word dur means “ball.” which is what we find at Isaiah, once in the entire
Bible. Indeed it is clear that in this context it is used to describe a spacious land, to
describe the earth as a ball from the etymology of the term, 'to stack in a circle', is
a nonsense and is once again more arguments over semantics , of which Christians
are warned against.
(2 Timothy 2:14) . . .Keep reminding them of these things, charging them before
God as witness, not to fight about words, a thing of no usefulness at all because it
overturns those listening. . .
you may be interested in the related verses which bear this out,
(Ezekiel 24:5) Let there be a taking of the choicest sheep, and also stack the logs in
a circle under it. Boil its pieces, also cook its bones in the midst of it.”’”
(Psalm 84:10) . . .For a day in your courtyards is better than a thousand
[elsewhere]. I have chosen to stand at the threshold in the house of my God Rather
than to move around in the tents of wickedness.
so rather than being shot down in flames, I arise like a phoenix from the ashes of
despair, majestic and awe inspiring!