Originally posted by robbie carrobieIf you'd ever set foot in a developing country, robbie, and if you'd taken in anything about what was going on around you, you'd know full well that literacy programmes offer "material benefits".
what material benefits? the ability to read is a material benefit? can you touch it like you can a hospital? I dont think so.
Originally posted by FMFyou can construe that its a charitable benefit, maybe, but its not a material benefit.
If you'd ever set foot in a developing country, robbie, and if you'd taken in anything about what was going on around you, you'd know full well that literacy programmes offer "material benefits".
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt's the difference between employment and unemployment for millions and millions of people in developing countries. I thought you said you'd been to Pakistan.
you can construe that its a charitable benefit, maybe, but its not a material benefit.
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Originally posted by FMFyou think all people work in offices effhim? How does learning to read provide employment opportunities for a farmer whose family has farmed land in the Punjab for generations? Such a BBC Radio4 perspective that all can attain to university regardless of their circumstances simply ignores all kinds of cultural constraints.
It's the difference between employment and unemployment for millions and millions of people in developing countries. I thought you said you'd been to Pakistan.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieShop assistants, people running their own small businesses, employees of businesses, people making deliveries, people doing anything that involves interaction with government offices, farmers looking for grants or entering into contracts etc. etc. The list would go on and on.
you think all people work in offices effhim?
So in Pakistan was there no difference between illiterate people and people who'd benefited from literacy programmes when it came to employability and getting better wages?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI am talking about the material benefits of literacy programmes. I said nothing about university education. You have mentioned university education. I have been talking about literacy programmes.
Such a BBC Radio4 perspective that all can attain to university regardless of their circumstances simply ignores all kinds of cultural constraints.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIf you provided your gospel message on Television or even the radio, then you would be able to get the message out without having to bother those that do not want to receive company into their home.
no we provide one on one education, we do not simply dumb material on people like your TV evangelists.
Originally posted by FMFIn Pakistan its who you know that counts.
Shop assistants, people running their own small businesses, employees of businesses, people making deliveries, people doing anything that involves interaction with government offices, farmers looking for grants or entering into contracts etc. etc. The list would go on and on.
So in Pakistan was there no difference between illiterate people and people who'd benefited from literacy programmes when it came to employability and getting better wages?