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Originally posted by FMF
I think it's been pretty clear from page 8 onward of this thread. Other posters can take a look and construe that I am wrong if they want to.

fine so you cannot tell us how it is that you construe 'building hospitals is awesome', to having contempt for that type of work. No surprises there.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
fine so you cannot tell us how it is that you construe 'building hospitals is awesome', to having contempt for that type of work. No surprises there.

Oh there's plenty of other stuff you posted from page 8 onwards. I would say your contempt is undisguised. As persuading you to agree is most unlikely, I simply invite others to read for themselves and if they think I am wrong they can say so.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
fine so you cannot tell us how it is that you construe 'building hospitals is awesome', to having contempt for that type of work. No surprises there.

Here you go, verbatim quote a few pages back

I am not out trying to suck villagers in with promises of building hospitals and medical help and making so called 'rice Christians'.

Doesn't get more contemptuous than that?!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
fine so you cannot tell us how it is that you construe 'building hospitals is awesome', to having contempt for that type of work. No surprises there.

Their "work" is bringing people to Jesus through community development projects.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Here you go, verbatim quote a few pages back

I am not out trying to suck villagers in with promises of building hospitals and medical help and making so called 'rice Christians'.

Doesn't get more contemptuous than that?!

I don't think robbie has made any effort to hide his contempt... the evidence is there from page 8 onwards.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Here you go, verbatim quote a few pages back

I am not out trying to suck villagers in with promises of building hospitals and medical help and making so called 'rice Christians'.

Doesn't get more contemptuous than that?!

Concerns have been expressed both by Christian missionaries and by those opposed to Christian missions that people in these situations are only nominally converting to Christianity in order to receive charity or material advancements

wikipedia

can you give us any guarantees that this is not the case?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Concerns have been expressed both by Christian missionaries and by those opposed to Christian missions that people in these situations are only nominally converting to Christianity in order to receive charity or material advancements

Is this the reason for your obvious contempt?

Originally posted by FMF
I don't think robbie has made any effort to hide his contempt... the evidence is there from page 8 onwards.

on the contrary i am merely expressing a concern that those people who 'come to Christ' may not be doing so for the correct reasons. I have already stated that i think building hospitals and providing medical care is awesome and I dont see how you can state that if people are coming to Christ for the incorrect reasons that its a good thing.

Originally posted by FMF
Is this the reason for your obvious contempt?

sorry how is 'building hospitals is awesome', 'obvious contempt', you have not explained except to once again make a rather vain appeal to the populace.

Originally posted by FMF
Their "work" is bringing people to Jesus through community development projects.

oh dear so they are 'rice Christians', ouch that gotta hurt! they are being brought to Christ why? for charitable and material benefits. ouch! Games up effhim, you sooo busted and so is your compadre proper wooster!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
oh dear so they are 'rice Christians', ouch that gotta hurt! they are being brought to Christ why? for charitable and material benefits. ouch!

You got any links to substantiate these accusations about the PNG projects that Proper Knob told us about?

Originally posted by FMF
You got any links to substantiate these accusations about the PNG projects that Proper Knob told us about?

you just said it yourself effhim, they are being brought to Christ through 'community projects'. Two have already been mentioned, building hospitals and providing healthcare, both of which are material and charitable benefits. Proper Knobs friends are making 'rice Christians!' Yikes!

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Concerns have been expressed both by Christian missionaries and by those opposed to Christian missions that people in these situations are only nominally converting to Christianity in order to receive charity or material advancements

wikipedia

can you give us any guarantees that this is not the case?

It's your claim, it's up to you to back it up.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you just said it yourself effhim, they are being brought to Christ through 'community projects'.

I didn't say that at all. There's nothing wrong with Christians being involved in community projects that might not happen if left to the local government or the private sector. Do you seriously think that non-Christians are denied access to the maternity clinics and primary schools and water & sanitation infrastructure etc. that result from the community efforts?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Two have already been mentioned, building hospitals and providing healthcare, both of which are material and charitable benefits.

Do you think Christians should not be involved in community development?