Originally posted by @karoly-aczelGenerosity
,, because he was an alcoholic
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05 Feb 18
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelIt's part of the mythology and beliefs that the NT writers wrapped around the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry.
,, because he was an alcoholic
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05 Feb 18
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelNothing to discuss.
,, because he was an alcoholic
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The definition of an alcoholic has nothing to do with making wine.
06 Feb 18
Originally posted by @jacob-vervilleuse not abuse. yes.
Because wine is good for parties and he has that power.
Also, wine is used as a sacrament. Let's not forget that.
i would've thought jesus was a real man. otherwise how could he be a human.
there are greater evils in life than drinking wine. far greater.
06 Feb 18
Originally posted by @rajk999other peoples definitions. I'n sure jesus had control at all times
Nothing to discuss.
The definition of an alcoholic has nothing to do with making wine.
06 Feb 18
Yeah, very funny.
Except that in the ancient world, pure water, or even clean water, was just not common in population centers. Wine was substituted as a way to get the water one needs to live. To this day, people tell you "don't drink the water" when you go to an underdeveloped country, and one is urged to drink something else, often beer, instead. However, alcoholism is much more rare in these countries because excess alcohol use ruins lives and people usually just want to get on and feed their families.
06 Feb 18
Originally posted by @suzianneThis is pretty much true except for the fact that alcoholism really is a burden in all manner of poor countries as it is usually one of the very few releases from the boredom and pain of everyday life.
Yeah, very funny.
Except that in the ancient world, pure water, or even clean water, was just not common in population centers. Wine was substituted as a way to get the water one needs to live. To this day, people tell you "don't drink the water" when you go to an underdeveloped country, and one is urged to drink something else, often beer, instead. ...[text shortened]... e excess alcohol use ruins lives and people usually just want to get on and feed their families.
06 Feb 18
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Originally posted by @jacob-vervilleYes, but this is responsible use. Countries where alcohol is a normal part of life, and especially countries where most of the population is poor, have a lower occurrence of alcoholism because it is a disease of countries with wealth and opulence. Alcohol use is normal, abuse is not. Just like eating food is normal, obesity is not.
This is pretty much true except for the fact that alcoholism really is a burden in all manner of poor countries as it is usually one of the very few releases from the boredom and pain of everyday life.
I'm not saying it is not a problem or that no one in these countries is alcoholic, that would be an absurd premise. I would say that 'responsible use' in these countries (where it is not usually seen as a vice) is higher, while abuse is not.
06 Feb 18
Originally posted by @suziannedont believe the hype. those 2 thumbs up you got are carrots. nothing more
Yeah, very funny.
Except that in the ancient world, pure water, or even clean water, was just not common in population centers. Wine was substituted as a way to get the water one needs to live. To this day, people tell you "don't drink the water" when you go to an underdeveloped country, and one is urged to drink something else, often beer, instead. ...[text shortened]... e excess alcohol use ruins lives and people usually just want to get on and feed their families.
not funny at all. jesus had a lot to woriy about
06 Feb 18
Originally posted by @thinkofoneI suppose you believe the resurrection is a myth too.
It's part of the mythology and beliefs that the NT writers wrapped around the gospel preached by Jesus during His ministry.
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06 Feb 18
Originally posted by @karoly-aczelHe shared a beautiful message sir. I don't think we can begrudge him a little alcohol.
,, because he was an alcoholic
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Besides, although the Bible tells us, do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery,' it also tells us, 'go, eat your food with gladness, and drink your wine with a joyful heart...'