Jesus wants some people damned

Originally posted by @eladar
Where in the Bible does it say we have free will?

Where does it say we don't?

Originally posted by @eladar
God hardened Pharaoh's heart the first time.

So you are saying Pharaoh never hardened his own heart even if the Bible says he did? The Bible specifically says God does the final hardening in Chapter 8. Do you really think Pharaoh who was enslaving God's people had a 'soft heart' towards God before God finally hardened his heart?

Originally posted by @kellyjay to Eladar
I can't think of anyone here you have not called a child of Satan you have disagreed with. Grace and mercy you never speak about that I recall, yet you go out of your way to insult and denigrate others, including the Lord.

Well, you have enough liking for and respect for Eladar to be still speaking to him. So that says a lot.

Presumably, you see the "Holy Spirit" working through him.

Originally posted by @eladar
RBHill

I do not insult Jesus, exvept when viewed through worldly eyes.

You seem to be in the worldly more often than the Spirit of God who would NEVER insult
Jesus. How many times have you EVER seen anyone in scripture go about insulting God
or Jesus as you do?

Originally posted by @eladar
You have no real basis for your beliefs. They are rooted in what seems right to you. It allows you to claim anything without having to support it with scripture.

You stand on sinking sand.

Hardening your heart are you?

Originally posted by @suzianne
Where does it say we don't?

Romans 9

Originally posted by @kellyjay
You seem to be in the worldly more often than the Spirit of God who would NEVER insult
Jesus. How many times have you EVER seen anyone in scripture go about insulting God
or Jesus as you do?

I am using your terms. I am using worldly terms.

Being a sexist is only insultuing to people who do not believe in gender roles.

Jrsus wanting some to go to hell is only insulting to those who believe everyone should go to hraven and God really didn't choose to hate esau.

Jesus called a woman a dog. Jesus called Jewish leaders vipers. Jesus insulted many people by calling them names. Do you think it is evil for Jesus to insult people?

Originally posted by @eladar
I am using your terms.

Being a sexist is only insulting to people who do not believe in gender roles.

Jrsus wanting some to go to hell is only insulting to those who believe everyone should go to hraven and God really didn't choose to hate esau.

Jesus called a woman a dog. Jesus called Jewish leaders vipers. Jesus insulted many people by calling them names. Do you think it is evil for Jesus to insult people?

The words that come out of your mouth come from your heart not mine. The words you
type out come from your heart not mine, you can try to blame me as you do that to others
all the time, but you are going to held accountable for those things you say, not the things
I say or have in my heart.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
So you are saying Pharaoh never hardened his own heart even if the Bible says he did? The Bible specifically says God does the final hardening in Chapter 8. Do you really think Pharaoh who was enslaving God's people had a 'soft heart' towards God before God finally hardened his heart?

I am saying God did it first. God forced Pharaoh to harden his heart. After the initial hardening, the others would be natural enough.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
The words that come out of your mouth come from your heart not mine. The words you
type out come from your heart not mine, you can try to blame me as you do that to others
all the time, but you are going to held accountable for those things you say, not the things
I say or have in my heart.

Of course they do, but I don't think they are insults.

Why is being a sexist wrong?

Originally posted by @eladar
Of course they do, but I don't think they are insults.

Why is being a sexist wrong?

I don't believe you.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
I don't believe you.

Of course you don't. You think Christianity by definition bases truth on worldly points of view. You believe in a hippy view of Jesus. It isn't a perfect decription but close enough.

Once again you side step my question.

Why is being a sexist wrong? Why force societal values on God?

Originally posted by @eladar
Of course you don't. You think Christianity by definition bases truth on worldly points of view. You believe in a hippy view of Jesus. It isn't a perfect decription but close enough.

Once again you side step my question.

Why is being a sexist wrong? Why force societal values on God?

You don't know what I believe. I don't think you know what anyone else believes.