Originally posted by JS357 I wonder when the idea of Jesus/Michael first surfaced? One site says, "The teaching that Jesus is Michael the Archangel is an old, tired Arian argument."
But I find no such reference to original Arianism that assert this to be among their beliefs, in various "issue neutral ...[text shortened]... prominence as an idea.
I suspect that there are bigger fish to fry on this thread, than mine.
then let them fry in their own juices, i vaguely remember reading something similar but like you could trace no evidence for it.
Originally posted by Suzianne SOP for the JWs. Twisting the meaning of scripture to fit their man-made, non-biblical dogma. Their dogma was created first and then they twist the meaning of the Bible to fit their dogma. This is the exact opposite of what other denominations do. And when they couldn't twist the Bible any more because of other Christians calling them on it, they just w ...[text shortened]... i]must[/i] be derived from the Bible. You cannot create a Bible derived from your dogma.
I guess you could say Mormons are the same way?
Speaking of Mormons yesterday was my wife's 30th birthday party. But today Sunday is her actual birthday. We found out that one of her male cousins wife's mother has been going to a Mormon church that is like a football field away from our house for about 2 months. My best friend from high school his family went there and still does. But I find it strange that his mother-in-law has been going there but I didn't want to ask why because I know she's gone to the denominational churches in the past. His sister takes her kids to the clinic that I do security at but I've only seen her there twice. But if I get the opportunity I will ask her. All that family is pretty close they hang out every weekend almost. Even one of the brothers tried out for the first season of The Voice but didn't make it. I will say he sings the best version of the hallelujah song I have ever heard. It gives my wife chill's.
Originally posted by RBHILL JW Where at my parents house the other day because I saw two of their books in the computer room. They were both January 2014 issues. One was title JW.org So I looked through it and wanted to read it because some Asian lady gave a testimony. It wasn't really that good because she didn't really explain Jesus or God that good of her testimony of becoming a Jeho ...[text shortened]... e studying about Jehovah witnesses They finally teach you that Jesus is Michael the arc angel!!!
Also a second thing comes to mind of this article that I read is they exult themselves here and yet they don't like too exult others like at birthday parties. But if its themselves it's ok?
Originally posted by robbie carrobie yes its entirely logical but one must remember its difficult to reason with people who are uninterested in reason or logic.
Logic has nothing in common with your religious organisation or is off-beat doctrines and behaviours.
Originally posted by RBHILL Also a second thing comes to mind of this article that I read is they exult themselves here and yet they don't like too exult others like at birthday parties. But if its themselves it's ok?
wow perhaps all that whodey has said about the education system in America is true, the term is exalt, exalt themselves and the term 'too' in this instance should have a single 'o'
Originally posted by robbie carrobie wow perhaps all that whodey has said about the education system in America is true, the term is exalt, exalt themselves and the term 'too' in this instance should have a single 'o'
I was speaking into the iPhone. Siri doesn't get all the words right all the time. So you can blame it on the run. But I guess you had a little pride there eh?
Originally posted by RBHILL I was speaking into the iPhone. Siri doesn't get all the words right all the time. So you can blame it on the run. But I guess you had a little pride there eh?
Originally posted by Suzianne SOP for the JWs. Twisting the meaning of scripture to fit their man-made, non-biblical dogma. Their dogma was created first and then they twist the meaning of the Bible to fit their dogma. This is the exact opposite of what other denominations do. And when they couldn't twist the Bible any more because of other Christians calling them on it, they just w ...[text shortened]... i]must[/i] be derived from the Bible. You cannot create a Bible derived from your dogma.
I have had a few JWs come by and knock on Saturday morning ......I want to have a chat with them but I'm usually in my boxers LOL 🙂 Really though it's tough because I just want to go for the jugular and say look ....Nice ladies and gents I just don't believe the way you do so it's kinda of pointless for you to knock unless you want to argue. If my wife or kids would not freak out I actually would invite them in for some coffee and say let's bust out our bibles and really look at this stuff.
Originally posted by menace71 I have had a few JWs come by and knock on Saturday morning ......I want to have a chat with them but I'm usually in my boxers LOL 🙂 Really though it's tough because I just want to go for the jugular and say look ....Nice ladies and gents I just don't believe the way you do so it's kinda of pointless for you to knock unless you want to argue. If my wife or ...[text shortened]... hem in for some coffee and say let's bust out our bibles and really look at this stuff.
Manny
When i was sixteen witnesses came to my house, i was playing my Fender guitar at the time, i was into metal, iron maiden,saxon, motorhead, i asked the dude about the number of the beast and listened to his explanation. A little impressed i asked him to come back. When he did my mom chased him away. I enquired who was at the door and when she told me i flipped out and ran after him, but he was gone. It was not until six years later that I met the witnesses again in the form of a school friend who had decided that it was right thing for him and changed from a weed smokin hippy to becoming a witness. Best decision he or I ever made.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie When i was sixteen witnesses came to my house, i was playing my Fender guitar at the time, i was into metal, iron maiden,saxon, motorhead, i asked the dude about the number of the beast and listened to his explanation. A little impressed i asked him to come back. When he did my mom chased him away. I enquired who was at the door and when she told ...[text shortened]... im and changed from a weed smokin hippy to becoming a witness. Best decision he or I ever made.
Cool you can still play right ? The Fender that is ?