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JW's drop attempts to block sex abuse inquiry

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No you are right that i have not read up on the findings of the Royal Australian Commission's report.

Just making comments based on my own experience as a Catholic.

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Thanks for the advice but not here....

" i.e. to defend the organisation rather than acknowledge the flaws,"

So if you were accused of lets say, breaking most driving laws every time you get behind the wheel of your car ( not at all implying you do ) and in reality yes you have received a couple citations, but yet some say " you have broken many driving laws, in fact thousands of times".
How would you react? Yes you would no doubt admit you have done this a few times but not thousands because you know the truth.
Get my point? I don't believe any JW here has denied that this has not happened. I certainly haven't as well as the other JW's here. Of course it has happened because every JW is a human and as imperfect as you are.
If you would "actually read the link" I posted it mentions that many of these abuses were from a family member. Does it specifically say that these guilty family members were also JW's? Don't assume they were.

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I appreciated your first comment about my mother. Now leave my mothers death out of it....


Originally posted by FMF
The Royal Commission found that [b]NO cases of child sex abuse were reported to the authorities by the JW organization in sixty years in Australia. That is zero. You say "thousands" were reported? The commission found the number to be nought. None. Zero.[/b]
No the report said thousands were reported..... "a culture that meant of more than 1000 reports of child sex abuse over 60 years, not one was referred to police".

Also.... Deuteronomy 19:15
15 “No single witness may convict another "for any error or any sin" that he may commit. On the testimony of two witnesses or on the testimony of three witnesses the matter should be established."

This was a law from God. We are no longer under those laws as Jesus fulfilled the laws. But the principles are still there from many of those laws and the wisdom from Jehovah still applies. One must remember the many things available to us today with science did not exist then that have only become available in the last few years.
If there were no obvious proofs of a sin committed against someone, the proof needed to make a judgement against one persons words had to verified ( same rules as today but with modern help available ) somehow and this is where the two or more witnesses of that offence came into play.
If no other eye witnesses or proof were available and the person was truly abused, that was a sad and horrible thing to happen indeed. But one has to remember that Jehovah see's all and is the one the bible says we have to wait on for his vengeance to take place on all who have done things such as this to other humans all thru history.

If anyone here were accused of abusing a child but you were truly innocent, would you not want to have all the proof you could find that you were innocent? Not only does God's rule on this help the abused without question, it helps the innocent.

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And you know what they did that? You seem to know all the facts so please explain......

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Originally posted by Pudgenik
No you are right that i have not read up on the findings of the Royal Australian Commission's report.

Just making comments based on my own experience as a Catholic.
neither has divgeeester or FMF

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Originally posted by galveston75
And you know what they did that? You seem to know all the facts so please explain......
Bag of rocks dude! one would be as well as entertaining a bag of rocks!


Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Bag of rocks dude! one would be as well as entertaining a bag of rocks!
I don't know, he does seem to know a lot you know. I'm sure he does because he was there and heard both sides of the facts.