JWs: more covering up of child sex abuse

Originally posted by @fmf
This is a subjective perspective. I have no reason to believe that either of us will be "judged" by a supernatural being. My perspective on this is subjective too.

That is not logical because one we can’t both be right. One of us has to be wrong. Logically we will either be judged by a supernatural being or we won’t.

Originally posted by @fmf
You said killing the rapist was morally justified. Why?

Why wouldn’t it be?

FMF: You said killing the rapist was morally justified. Why?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Why wouldn’t it be?

What is your justification for killing the rapist in the circumstances described?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
That is not logical because one we can’t both be right.

I am OK with you thinking I am wrong.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Logically we will either be judged by a supernatural being or we won’t.

It's OK for me if you think you will.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
That doesn’t mean that their environments have automatically taught them the right thing, their sense of right and wrong could still be warped.

Like me, you navigate your way through life using a moral compass that helps you assess what you feel is right and wrong and even what is "warped".

Originally posted by @fmf
I am OK with you thinking I am wrong.

Do you agree that we can't both be right?

Originally posted by @fmf
What is your justification for killing the rapist in the circumstances described?

As the father of two daughters I believe their safety is paramount. If he tried to kill my daughter I would probably kill him first if that was the only way to stop him. Wouldn't you?

Originally posted by @fmf
Like me, you navigate your way through life using a moral compass that helps you assess what you feel is right and wrong and even what is "warped".

Do you agree that a moral compass can be warped? How is that possible with no moral absolutes?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Do you agree that we can't both be right?

Well, it's all subjective, isn't it? So if I think you're wrong, then I think you're wrong. If you disagree, then so be it: we just have to agree to disagree. Law enforcement and the courts will intervene if the 'wrongdoing' is illegal or criminal and goes beyond 'agreeing to disagree'. But as long as it falls short of that, it is your right to fret and speculate about what your god figure thinks and what action he might or might not take against you. If you are convinced that all that god stuff is right, and that I am wrong about it, that's OK. It doesn't affect me.

Originally posted by @fmf
Well, it's all subjective, isn't it? So if I think you're wrong, then I think you're wrong. If you disagree, then so be it: we just have to agree to disagree. Law enforcement and the courts will intervene if the 'wrongdoing' is illegal or criminal and goes beyond 'agreeing to disagree'. But as long as it falls short of that, it is your right to fret and specula ...[text shortened]... that all that god stuff is right, and that I am wrong about it, that's OK. It doesn't affect me.

You're dodging. Do you agree that logically we can't both be right? Yes or No?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
As the father of two daughters I believe their safety is paramount. If he tried to kill my daughter I would probably kill him first if that was the only way to stop him.

Do you believe that this justification is rooted in "absolute truth" and some sort of "authority" that you are endowed with by your religious beliefs?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Do you agree that logically we can't both be right? Yes or No?

You can believe you are right. And I can believe you are wrong. You can believe you are right. You can believe I am wrong. You can claim you are using "logic"; I can claim I am using "logic". It's subjective.

Originally posted by @fmf
Do you believe that this justification is rooted in "absolute truth" and some sort of "authority" that you are endowed with by your religious beliefs?

It is based upon a God given common sense and conscience that I think any reasonable sane person would agree with.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Do you agree that a moral compass can be warped?

Of course. This is the sort of subjective assessment that our moral compasses allow us to make.