JWs: more covering up of child sex abuse

Originally posted by @dj2becker
It is based upon a God given common sense and conscience that I think any reasonable sane person would agree with.

The notion that it is "God given" is subjective and absorbed from your environment and upbringing.

Originally posted by @fmf
You can believe you are right. And I can believe you are wrong. You can believe you are right. You can believe I am wrong. You can claim you are using "logic"; I can claim I am using "logic". It's subjective.

Ultimately if God does exist I am right and you are wrong if he doesn't you are right and I am wrong. We can't both be right because it's not logically possible for God to exist and not exist at the same time.

Originally posted by @fmf
The notion that it is "God given" is subjective and absorbed from your environment and upbringing.

Yes but I could be right or I could be wrong. I cannot be both right and wrong at the same time.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Do you agree that a moral compass can be warped?

How is that possible with no moral absolutes?

Because it's subjective.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Yes but I could be right or I could be wrong. I cannot be both right and wrong at the same time.

You decide for yourself if you are "right".

Originally posted by @fmf
[b]How is that possible with no moral absolutes?

Because it's subjective.[/b]

Is the 'fact' that it is subjective also subjective?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Ultimately if God does exist I am right and you are wrong if he doesn't you are right and I am wrong. We can't both be right because it's not logically possible for God to exist and not exist at the same time.

I am not religious. The fact that you are religious does not convert your subjective moral compass into an objective one. If you believe God exists and this makes you behave in a morally sound way, then I welcome it.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Is the 'fact' that it is subjective also subjective?

I am just sharing my perspective. I have never once claimed that my moral perspectives are anything other than "subjective", as are yours and everybody's.

Originally posted by @fmf
You decide for yourself if you are "right".

Yes but it could turn out that I'm wrong even if I decided that I was right and vice versa. That is the nature of absolute truth vs relative truth.

Originally posted by @fmf
I am just sharing my perspective. I have never once claimed that my moral perspectives are anything other than "subjective", as are yours and everybody's.

Do you believe your perspective is rooted in truth or falsehood?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Yes but it could turn out that I'm wrong even if I decided that I was right and visa versa. That is the nature of absolute truth vs relative truth.

You are welcome to spend your life speculating about supernatural beings and supernatural punishments.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Do you believe your perspective is rooted in truth or falsehood?

I am sharing my perspective on how morality works. I am being honest about my views. If you want to label it as a "falsehood" it's OK.

Originally posted by @fmf
I am sharing my perspective on how morality works. I am being honest about my views. If you want to label it as a "falsehood" it's OK.

What makes you think that your perspective is based on the truth?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
What makes you think that your perspective is based on the truth?

For the reasons that I have been giving you over and over and over again for the last 2 or more years.

Originally posted by @fmf
For the reasons that I have been giving you over and over and over again for the last 2 or more years.

Do you believe someone else's perspective can also be true even if it contradicts yours?